NDX

Posted by: Pepiva on 29 June 2015

Hello.

I have received my NDX last week.

Check my system.

I will keep you posted.

Best

Giuseppe

 

Posted on: 29 June 2015 by Sneaky SNAIC
Originally Posted by Pepiva:

Hello.

I have received my NDX last week.

Check my system.

I will keep you posted.

Best

Giuseppe

 

Nice system.

Posted on: 29 June 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by Pepiva:

Hello.

I have received my NDX last week.

Check my system.

I will keep you posted.

Best

Giuseppe

 

Checked - no NDX - what happening to CD5 ??

What NAS are you using,  how is system setup - wired or wireless.

Posted on: 29 June 2015 by phosphocreatine

Nice piece of kit ! plug it wired to your network and use a good server (Assetnas or Minimserver) and you will really enjoy your music.

 

have fun

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Pepiva
Thanks. I have now updated the description of my system.
Originally Posted by Pepiva:

Hello.

I have received my NDX last week.

Check my system.

I will keep you posted.

Best

Giuseppe

 

Checked - no NDX - what happening to CD5 ??

What NAS are you using,  how is system setup - wired or wireless.

 

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Mike-B

OK but why keep CD5 ??

What about the NDX set-up,  is it wired or wireless & what/how stores the music

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Pepiva
Originally Posted by Mike-B:

OK but why keep CD5 ??

What about the NDX set-up,  is it wired or wireless & what/how stores the music

I get this feeling that it might be useful. I have about 5,000 cd's. Should I sell it? I never sell anything (I have a spare NAC72, a NAP140, and a NAIT02).

Music will be stored on a QNAP TS 231+ NAS. The NDX is wired to a switch, no wireless connection, which also ports the NAS and is connected to a Netgear DSL modem - router. My iMac is directly connected to the modem router. Do you have any comments or suggestions? Thanks.

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Mike-B

Excellent,  nice network setup,  the switch is a positive "must have" IMO to get the best out of a network,  irrespective of how good the DSL router is. 

5000 CD's will take some time to rip  & will need a lot of TB,  but I bet once they are all ripped you will not play the CD5.  Then think about CD storage - how big is that in your house for 5000 CD's ?? compared to that little QNAP box !!!!  It will free up a lot of house room once they are in storage boxes.  

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Pepiva
Have you got any suggestions for CD storage boxes? Ikea used to carry a variety of them but all have been discontinued, at least in Italy.
 
 
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
 

Excellent,  nice network setup,  the switch is a positive "must have" IMO to get the best out of a network,  irrespective of how good the DSL router is. 

5000 CD's will take some time to rip  & will need a lot of TB,  but I bet once they are all ripped you will not play the CD5.  Then think about CD storage - how big is that in your house for 5000 CD's ?? compared to that little QNAP box !!!!  It will free up a lot of house room once they are in storage boxes.  

 

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Originally Posted by Mike-B:

OK but why keep CD5 ??

What about the NDX set-up,  is it wired or wireless & what/how stores the music

I get this feeling that it might be useful. I have about 5,000 cd's. Should I sell it? I never sell anything (I have a spare NAC72, a NAP140, and a NAIT02).

Music will be stored on a QNAP TS 231+ NAS. The NDX is wired to a switch, no wireless connection, which also ports the NAS and is connected to a Netgear DSL modem - router. My iMac is directly connected to the modem router. Do you have any comments or suggestions? Thanks.

Ive kept my CD5XS, and it hasn't been powered on in over a year!  It's just taking up a shelf on the Fraim.

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Have you got any suggestions for CD storage boxes? Ikea used to carry a variety of them but all have been discontinued, at least in Italy.

I have mine in  plastic general storage boxes,  In UK they are found in all home product stores such as Ikea,  sorry but don't know Italian store names. 

I selected my box dimensions deliberately to store each CD case on end with the end title strip showing, this means the box internal must be at least 15cm for normal case size/shapes,  some odd shapes mean a bit more.  My storage boxes are 17.5cm deep & 40cm x 60cm max on the top (lid) .That size is about as heavy as enough to carry around when full of CD's.  

The box top is profiled to enable the base to fit & boxes to be stored securely on top of each other.  The only other advise is don't store them in an attic,  a friend did that & the heat of summer melted & distorted them all.

Posted on: 30 June 2015 by MarkMcK79
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Originally Posted by Mike-B:

OK but why keep CD5 ??

What about the NDX set-up,  is it wired or wireless & what/how stores the music

I get this feeling that it might be useful. I have about 5,000 cd's. Should I sell it? I never sell anything (I have a spare NAC72, a NAP140, and a NAIT02).

Music will be stored on a QNAP TS 231+ NAS. The NDX is wired to a switch, no wireless connection, which also ports the NAS and is connected to a Netgear DSL modem - router. My iMac is directly connected to the modem router. Do you have any comments or suggestions? Thanks.

5,000 CDs while be quite a chore to rip - you only want to do it once, so make sure you do it right.

 

Don't use any lossy compression (MP3, AAC, etc.).  On your iMac I would preferably use a program called XLD or the Mac version of dBPoweramp.  Don't use iTunes, as there is no way to check if a rip is bit-perfect during ripping.  Be sure to use a "secure ripper" and query the "Accurate Rip Database" (these are XLD settings, but dBPa should use something similar).  Output to FLAC at a minimum (if drive storage is an issue), but again preferably AIFF (in a Mac environment).  Embed the highest resolution artwork you can find (at least 600x600, but bigger is better to future proof).

Posted on: 01 July 2015 by ChrisSU
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Have you got any suggestions for CD storage boxes? Ikea used to carry a variety of them but all have been discontinued, at least in Italy.
 
 
 
 

 

I'm not sure if you can get these in Italy, but I've just found some boxes that work well for me....

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/cd-storage-again

Posted on: 01 July 2015 by Pepiva
Hello,
I am using a QNAP TS 231+ NAS with my NDX, but the streamer sees my pc but not the NAS. Do I need a piece of software running in order for that to happen?
 
Originally Posted by phosphocreatine:

Nice piece of kit ! plug it wired to your network and use a good server (Assetnas or Minimserver) and you will really enjoy your music.

 

have fun

 

Posted on: 01 July 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Hello,
I am using a QNAP TS 231+ NAS with my NDX, but the streamer sees my pc but not the NAS. Do I need a piece of software running in order for that to happen?

I assume you are doing this with an iPad or Anroid pad & not the naim remote.

What UPnP media server are you using with the QNAP ???  what UPnP package does it come with ??

whatever it is, thats all you need;  so if you do not have a QUAP package supplied media server,  you need to follow QNAP instructions & install one.  Asset is probably the best,  but Minimserver is also good. 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by Pepiva
Thank you for your suggestion.
I have installed Minimserver and everything is fine.
Now I can control my NDX from my iPhone, iPad and remote control.
 
One more question: I have added music on the NAS and it does not show on the menus.
Why? Is there something I am missing?
 
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Hello,
I am using a QNAP TS 231+ NAS with my NDX, but the streamer sees my pc but not the NAS. Do I need a piece of software running in order for that to happen?

I assume you are doing this with an iPad or Anroid pad & not the naim remote.

What UPnP media server are you using with the QNAP ???  what UPnP package does it come with ??

whatever it is, thats all you need;  so if you do not have a QUAP package supplied media server,  you need to follow QNAP instructions & install one.  Asset is probably the best,  but Minimserver is also good. 

 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
One more question: I have added music on the NAS and it does not show on the menus.
Why? Is there something I am missing?

Clear the cache

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by Pepiva
Where?
 
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
One more question: I have added music on the NAS and it does not show on the menus.
Why? Is there something I am missing?

Clear the cache

 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by alan33
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
One more question: I have added music on the NAS and it does not show on the menus.
Why? Is there something I am missing?

Clear the cache

Re-scan or re-index the server on your NAS; MinimServer doesn't update automaticall when you add files. 

 

Regards, alan 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by Pepiva
Alan,
Thank you. Where do you think I should look for to perform the action?
Best
Giuseppe
 
Originally Posted by alan33:
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
One more question: I have added music on the NAS and it does not show on the menus.
Why? Is there something I am missing?

Clear the cache

Re-scan or re-index the server on your NAS; MinimServer doesn't update automaticall when you add files. 

 

Regards, alan 

 

Posted on: 02 July 2015 by alan33
You can install a control program on your Mac or PC called "minim watch" and use that, or you can use a web browser to access the minim server port by surfing to your NAS address and adding ortnumber at the end. It might be 9000, will check for you when I'm home.
Posted on: 02 July 2015 by alan33
Originally Posted by alan33:
You can install a control program on your Mac or PC called "minim watch" and use that, or you can use a web browser to access the minim server port by surfing to your NAS address and adding ortnumber at the end. It might be 9000, will check for you when I'm home.

Sorry, I have no idea how that emoticon got involved...

 

if if you go to the MinimServer status under your Synology "installed" applications page, it will hop you to the web interface for free (port 9170, I think it was...but you don't need that). On the status page, you can hit a re-index button to update your library with the new uploads and any other changes. Best wishes. 

 

Regards, alan 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by Pepiva
Thank you Alan.
I have installed Minim Watch, and if I hit "Rescan" on the status bar menu I get the desired action.
What is the difference between "Rescan" and "Refresh"?
It occurs to me that I have now invested a substantial budget into streaming (over € 6,000) and there is so much software involved. I cannot really afford my NDX to become obsolete/unusable in two years.
What is your feeling?
 
Originally Posted by alan33:
Originally Posted by alan33:
You can install a control program on your Mac or PC called "minim watch" and use that, or you can use a web browser to access the minim server port by surfing to your NAS address and adding ortnumber at the end. It might be 9000, will check for you when I'm home.

Sorry, I have no idea how that emoticon got involved...

 

if if you go to the MinimServer status under your Synology "installed" applications page, it will hop you to the web interface for free (port 9170, I think it was...but you don't need that). On the status page, you can hit a re-index button to update your library with the new uploads and any other changes. Best wishes. 

 

Regards, alan 

 

Posted on: 03 July 2015 by alan33
Originally Posted by Pepiva:
Thank you Alan.
I have installed Minim Watch, and if I hit "Rescan" on the status bar menu I get the desired action.
What is the difference between "Rescan" and "Refresh"?
It occurs to me that I have now invested a substantial budget into streaming (over € 6,000) and there is so much software involved. I cannot really afford my NDX to become obsolete/unusable in two years.
What is your feeling?

 

Hi Pepiva,

 

In MinimWatch, "rescan" tells MinimServer, running on your NAS to look through your music library and update its database with all the songs, metadata and so on. "Refresh" tell MinimWatch to query MinimServer for current status information. as an example, if MinimServer is not running on your NAS, say because you just updated the DSM software and have not yet gone into the Package Center and chosen "Run" after the update / reboot, then MinimWatch, running on your Mac, shows a bunch of greyed out menu items. After enabling MinimServer to "run", when you hit "Refresh", those menu items are no longer greyed out, and the Properties, say, reflect the current live settings being used by MinimServer. The top MinimWatch menu items are "pass through" commands for MinimServer; the bottom group (of three: Options; Refresh; Exit) are "local" commands for MinimWatch itself (ie: "stop" stops MinimServer, but "exit" exits MinimWatch). I hope that makes sense. 

 

My feeling on your "obsolete" question is that you have nice equipment and need to learn how to keep it up to date. For my part, Naim have been very busy updating firmware and App software to add new features and improve stability and performance. I have a SuperUniti and a (first generation) UnitiQute, and am well pleased with the ongoing support. I think NDX owners have enjoyed the same level of support. Much of the discussion on the forum from people who are not feeling "safe" about their forward-looking experience seems to be with the hard disk player / ripper / server products (HDX and UnitiServe, if I have it right), since these products serve local content (eg from their own local store or a NAS) but will not be upgraded to serve online content (eg from Spotify or Qobuz). I don't know the details, but Naim have stated that this would not be an appropriate addition for these products, while users point to, say, the two different "categories" of applications that can be run on a NAS (ie both a UPNP server for local content, and an Internet streaming "relay" client that listens to, say, Spotify, and sends it out over UPNP to any and all listening clients).  Clearly a difference of opinion on what "music serving" means, just as there is a divide over the design decision to implement only "connect" style Internet streaming services (ie Spotify connect but not Qobuz or Tidal, which use a different interface and are readily added to Sonos-type devices just as new internet radio stations are added elsewhere). 

 

TL;DR : you are in the group of Naim owners with the most aggressive level of support via new firmware. Relax and enjoy your gear for years to come! That is certainly my plan...

 

Regards, alan