Firmware 4.3 how to open new BBC internet radio

I searched and found the BBC Radio HD streams using the app. If you are looking in the Naim choice section you'll still find the old non HD BBC streams.

Hi,

If you select the Internet Radio input then in the list of "Added Stations", "Naim'sChoice" etc. the third entry should be BBC Radio ... go into that and you should find the BBC 'stations' and if you go into those then you should see the HD feeds.

The Naim's Choice feeds still refer to the MP3 feeds as not all units can handle the HLS feeds...

Cheers

Phil

Where are you located Liu ???

The new BBC HLS streams are only available in UK

Roo and PHil,

Sorry I can not find the stations following your instructions.  Third line of the interface is named location.  And I found United Kingdoms in Europe catgory, yet not the BBC HD.

Is Mike correct about the UK only restrict?  Anyone outside UK found these new stations?

Thanks.

Liu

Hi,

I believe that the global restrictions on streams are still being worked through...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/int...21-a38f-8cc1fa8731c8

Phil

Hi, Jim Simmons on this blog post states that 320 is not distributed outside the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/int...20#comment_121379641

(5th para down)

Thank you Phil and Simon, for the link you provided.  I think I would be more happy if I was informed by Naim's update documents instead of BBC blog.  Next time perhaps Naim could make a statement in its doc saying that after the update your Naim stream device will be technically able to play new BBC HD yet it is only avalible in UK according to BBC policy, etc.

Regards

Liu

Unfortunately we are not responsible for any geographic limitations placed by service providers on their services and it isn't possible for us to go manually checking through all the stations to check whether they are available in all locations ...

The BBC HLS changeover has been an absolute nightmare from a manufacturers perspective - swapping over to a format that was different to their published test streams, dropping support for formats that were supposed to remain active for an extended period to enable a smooth transition,settling on a format that wasn't even correctly specified and ratified etc. and of course from most customers perspectives it's the manufacturers 'fault' because their internet radio has stopped working.

Phil

Liu, to be fair to Phil and his colleagues, as Phil suggests, the BBC migration to their new web radio infrastructure and streaming services has been somewhat shambolic with many seemingly kept guessing until the last moment.. and  further changes are yet due with the rollout of MPEG-DASH. If you read between the lines on Jim Simmon's blog, he seems to blame some of the less than ideal rollout on cost cutting / reducing budgets... one can only speculate whether this did indeed make a difference or not.

Simon

Its all a bit sad really - BBC is funded by UK residents in the form of the "TV Licence" & that is primarily used to fund the television, radio and online services of the BBC.  

(NB:  for the benefit of Liu & all non-UK peeps)  The licence fee was frozen for 6 years in 2010 as part of the governments austerity budget changes with the 2008/9 global financial crash.   This (est 16%) cut in income has affected numbers of BBC services, the extensive World Service for e.g. & now we are seeing some of the many other effects with BBC web radio.     

In some ways I agree that if it has to be limited for budgetary reasons, then BBC HLS should be limited to UK residents,  but also because the HLS service has 57 stations & of those 46 are regional/local stations it on the whole is of little interest to overseas listeners. 

I would hope the future changes will include the HLS HD level quality for listeners outside UK & would assume whatever form that takes it does not need to include the local/regional stations.