Windows 10

The press & IT trade have given it a positive approval ........

I used an IT buddies beta version a month ago & I am jumping in the deep end, so far - after 1 hr testing - it's 100% thumbs up from me

I'm trying to think of a reason to be an early adopter. Seems best to let other debig a bit first.

I shall do it in a few weeks. I am actually someone who quite like Windows 8, on my laptop at least

Hi Bruce,  problem is MS will eventually withdraw support for the old stuff,  it smacks a bit of 1984 & big brotherland,  but fighting off that kind of thing tends to leave us all in a land of hermits.  

IMO the face & twitter spheres are somewhere I choose not to go & happy to have all that stuff pass me by  ..........  however whilst I am extremely suspicious of the web stuff, google, apple etc. & do positively reject the all inclusive "let us do it for you" stuff,    I do like to be up to date with the latest developments.   

I shall update all my devices (I need to buy a new desktop soon anyway as it is now somewhat steam age) but always seems to me best to let a few weeks go by to allow a bit of debugging by others before doing a big OS update.

Bruce

Upgrade took 40 minutes. All good.

Office 2013 works fine.

Hi Wat  I'm not "suspicious" as such,  maybe the word I should have used was "object" in that I object to "big brother" snooping.   I mentioned Apple & Google,  but it could be any of them; what I do on my PC is my business.

I had to use Apple/Mac with a cmpy I worked with, yuk !!!!    I learnt to hate Mac with a vengeance as at the same time I was using my very early low powered MS (PC) laptop with my own cmpy & my preferences have remained that way since.  

I love Google Chrome - minus the snoopy stuff

With Win-10 I am about to start playing with the new MS "Edge" - the old IE replacement  

And I soon clocked on to the fact that Naim app's are developed out of the iOS system,  so I use an iPad for that & travelling e-mails.

My 8.1 update took about the same time

Mrs-Mike's Win-7 is taking an age, must be 2 hours or more at this stage.  Its running away with the HD whirring noise but a black screen at moment.

This is normal and inevitable: new software designed for newer versions of the OS use functions in the newer OS that simply don't exist in the older systems.

While there have been cosmetic changes, from Win NT > Win 2000 > Win Vista > Win 7 most importantly there were security improvement at each step (and incidentally Free BSD is no more secure than Win 7).  I don't know the internal details of the changes in Win 8.1 (I never used it professionally).

I agree it's annoying that MS base their lifecycle on a fixed time-period rather than something like:

Release of 'Version +2' + 6 months.

About five years ago I was on a long haul business flight and I was sitting next to a pretty senior MS executive. As someone who'd used a Mac at home for almost 20 years, but was forced to use a Windows PC at work, I asked him what it was like working for MS. He'd availed himself of the free booze and was quite open: he thought the company was, in the (very) long run, doomed.

He hated Steve Ballmer with a passion, regarding him as nothing more than a sweaty salesman infected with the worst trait a business leader can have - complacency. Ballmer, and the other bods at the top, were warned about the danger posed by the iPhone but they all ignored it, regarding it - as they did most of Apple's products - as little more than a toy which would never be taken seriously by "the enterprise". Later, in a desperate attempt to catch up with Apple, he overpaid for Nokia and Skype; good ideas coming from within the R&D teams at Redmond and elsewhere were stamped on, as Ballmer & Co preferred to buy other people's products and bundle them in; Vista was a complete dog and damaged the company's reputation; Surface was a flop; Bing's share of search is tiny; and MS' attempts to replicate Apple's retail model have tanked.

Now that Android and iOS have over 90% of the mobile devices market; and the market for desktop and laptops in decline,  I find it difficult to disagree with the predictions of the MS guy. They seem to be way behind the curve on most things except gaming, and I believe they don't make much money on that.

All that said, I've heard that Win 10 is pretty good, But now that I am self employed, and committed to the Mac OS "ecosystem" I can't see myself ever using it.

I think its one of those areas where you either like a or you like b.  I bought my first mac recently to use with Audirvana on my Hugo and its great for that.  It also connects easily and the mouse and keyboard are lovely but its a nightmare to move files around on it and networking with it is a joke.  I'm sure if I had been using it for years it would be normal and intuative but I much prefer my PC as a serious machine

I'm usually one to wait with updates, but my laptop is now downloading Windows 10. The desktop PC I'm typing this post from is running on XP. I'll be at two extremes in the world of Windows. 

I have it downloaded and scheduled for update tomorrow afternoon to give me time for a complete system backup so we'll see how that goes.

Bruce I understand your caution and it's fully justified. When I was an IT manager I had to take that approach. Reckless IT managers don't tend to last long. However now I can indulge my curiosity and I'm keen to see how it measures up.

I was going to test it on a VM first, unfortunately it's giving a "VMware SVGA 3D" display issue.  It looks like it might be as I have v10 but its fixed in v11....  I hope they just fix it in my version....

On the surface, a pretty painless update. I'm posting from the MS Edge browser which to me has a rather chaotic looking start page, so I'll be customizing that. 

Two minor issues I'm chasing down; getting my AVG anti-virus protection installed (I'm now depending solely on Windows Defender) and getting the touchpad on my Asus laptop fully functional - it won't scroll.

Still in cue for download. Have to say i miss my Ubuntu but no way to make Ableton live run with it.....

Mrs-Mike's laptop crapped out big time.  It stalled during the upgrade, left it running overnight, but it was the same next morning.  We stopped & restarted & the MS prog said it needed to make repairs but it couldn't do anything & we concluded it was toast.

Went to laptop A&E where it was diagnosed as a corrupt HD

The laptop Sharman took everything off & is rebuilding .........  expected to be 100% fit Monday.

As for mine,  after a few days in I am 100% happy,  it works, simples, wonder what the fuss is all about

Still prefer Google Chrome over Edge  (so far)

Took about 2 hours of installing after a 45min download on my Dell Ultrabook from Windows 8.1 but it works fine, no bugs I can find.

I liked the big tile covered start screen of 8.1 as found it fast and simple to get the things I used a lot but I guess I will get used to it.

Not sure about Edge yet-need to get organised and try it more. Not sure what advantage it is supposed to have over IE. I resent having MSN feeds and Bing as my defaults, will sort that shortly.

Bruce

Thankfully, I only need to use a PC on occasion but I booked the Windows 10 upgrade & for some reason I've not been offered it yet. Not that I'm desperate or anything but it seems everyone else has got their copies installed already.

You're not alone Tony, I booked mine the first chance I had and I have not yet been offered it either.  I doubt either of us will be crying tears of desperation though

Yes, I heard they'd found one person who liked Win 8 !   

You can download it directly using this link on the Microsoft web site http://www.microsoft.com/en-us...e-download/windows10

No need to wait your turn 

I should have known better.

A clean Windows 7 reinstall a few weeks back in preparation for 10.

Upgrade to Windows 10 on Saturday.

Bugs, connectivity and network issues.

Roll back - "sorry, you can't revert to Windows 7, try doing a Windows 10 refresh".

Windows 10 refresh hangs after four hours and PC loops into continuous restarts because the boot device has become inaccessible.

Atrer vain attempts to get it to boot from an iso I downloaded and burnt on another PC, I get the PC to boot from the Windows 7 CD.

Get to DOS prompt.

Format C:

Reinstall Windows 7.

Copy all the backed up data back onto the HDDs - now in progress.

But the network now works

And yes, it's an i7 PC with 32GB RAM less than two years old.

Serves me right.

The best way to get it Tony is pop over to the MS site and download their Windows Media Creation Tool

Didnt realise that you had posted this and yes this is the best way to get it.

Windows 10 updated last night and my touchpad scrolling is working again

Only thing is that now scrolling down is up and scrolling up is down

Not sure if this is Asus or Windows.