Windows 10

Not even remotely...

OK, setting Windows 8 compatibility mode on the client exe and turning off the e-mail notifications has improved matters somewhat (it used to crash >50% of the time on send).

I don't need notifications for received e-mail as I use Mail Washer to monitor my POP3 mailbox.

Never heard of it...I use Hotmail and Office.com, with Outlook thick client.  Haven't had a single hitch in Win10 with anything. *shrug*

I went back to 8.1 tonight and it was a seamless process. 10 had too many little instabilities for me; posting here in Edge and managing my Yahoo email accounts for example. Edge also seemed to take increasingly longer to load pages, despite my having the privacy and pop-up settings set in a manner that should minimize loading time. No regrets going back 8.1 so far.

One word of warning for those on the fence, there was some language during the process indicating that the reversal from 10 to earlier versions is available only for one month. I assume there are recovery caveats around that, but if you downloaded 10 on its July 29 release you have less than a week to decide on the opt-out that I chose.

I too have found Edge to be slow(er)

But I have been Chrome since Vista days & carried that forward into W-10, it has my e-mail (BT/Yahoo) plus News, Weather, Traffic,  etc across the "banner" top line,  plus Naim & my other forums & music links & my NAS webpage.   I have it all loaded the same in Edge "Favourites",  but familiarity with Chrome & the slower Edge & with no banner line,  it does not live up to the MS hype for me.  

The rest of W-10 I like,  now I have found my way around it is easier for me than was W-8.1.   That said I've disconnected all the sync stuff (not needed) & the other linked in "we want to be your friend & do it all for you" (snooping) stuff - its nice if you want it ..... but not me.

I'm also still struggling with W-10 (or something related) waking my Synology NAS for no reason.  I've sent a support ticket to Synology,  but living in hope rather than expectations.   

After that, all is still not lost, but reverting after the one month is a rebuild of your previous OS from the installation disks (which will re-base your PC requiring all programmes to be re-installed from scratch). 

You'll also need to ensure that all your data are either on a different disk and backed up at least once or are backed up at least twice.

On the subject of Edge, as a user, I find the absence of Javascript is an issue for a lot of websites.

As a system designer the lack of any posibility to support AJAX is a massive backward step - in functionality DHTML is a very poor second.

I've researched the SMTP issue, it appears that the timing, and potentially the sequence, of notifications has changed, so it'll affect different mail clients differently.  The change to Win 8 compatibility mode has helped (but I don't know why).

As for VirtualBox, the Windows 10 Upgrade Adviser said it was compatible, but both Oracle and the 'troubleshooter' in the released OS still designate it as incompatible.  Oracle are working on a fix, but the failure of the Windows 10 Upgrade Adviser is very disappointing.  Compatibility mode doesn't help here (not surprisingly).

I picked up on the same issue last week after finding some web media did not open or work correctly from Edge. I dug around & it seems to be officially recognised because of the lack of support for ActiveX making Edge unable to properly render some media content & as a result is considered as an unsupported web browser in many quarters. 

MailWasher is a very simple application, it 'peeks' a POP3 (or IMAP) mailbox and runs a naive Bayesian filter to detect unwanted content, these are marked for delete.  It then allows you to manually review and change the markers before deleting the unwanted mails, and calling your mail application to download the wanted ones.

It can also run imperative rules to auto delete mails if you choose to use this facility (you don't even see these mails).

Personally I never allowed ActiveX from a browser that can access external web sites as it is too easy to use it for malicious code.

ActiveX is part of Windows & IE,  

However their website says ... To run genuine Windows validation, you must install an ActiveX control. Internet Explorer might not be configured to download ActiveX controls for security reasons, or you might have declined to install the ActiveX control when Internet Explorer prompted you to download, install, or run the control.

Now with Windows-10 Edge, they seem to have dropped it  ......

...... oh well,   I expect a lot of changes will be coming down the pipe over the next months.

Microsoft make a browser that only supports modern standards.

Some sites don't like it.

Simply right click and open with IE 11.

Citrix, an enterprise software, allows remote desktop access to your machines, relies on ActiveX. Alternatively, one can use Java applet in place of ActiveX. But in my view, Java is even worse and more evil than ActiveX, so I just stick to IE for the time being. 

I've sent a support report to Synology & they have replied ........  

Unfortunately, this is an issue with Windows and there is not much we can do to help. I think you would be better off posing this question to Microsoft themselves.

So I've now sent a problem report to Microsoft - I'm no longer living in any state of hope or expectation .............   oh well such is life.  

But for the benefit of all Synology hibernation users, its a Windows problem.   I will keep watching the various www places & if a fix comes up I will post it on a new thread.

IE was too old and bloated...to many features and standards smooshed together...it was slow as hell.

Edge is brand new from the ground up...but still only a V1.

ActiveX is basically COM+, and is sort of a client-side code-behind strategy.  Very old and insecure, from the 90s.  Good riddance!  It was the hardest thing in the world to code.

Totally agreed; except it wasn't that hard to code

(try using the DDK or integrating Windows code with 9bit 1's complement Unisys binary data).

IMHO, nothing is harder than writing a distributed stock matching engine that can match millions of orders in a second, it is of course not rocket science, but it has to work every time.

It's a pretty hard core subject area, scale is pretty large...and its *MONEY* so the stakeholders are pretty serious about it...stakes couldn't be higher.  See my 4M rule in another thread.

No worries with the V1.  I have been running 10 since official release and am glad to report all is compatible and running like a champ.

Email .... lol that's another story however...needs more time in the oven.

My primary use of Windows 10 on my notebook was for browsing in Edge and email in Yahoo, and that's where all my frustrations occurred. Otherwise, it seemed like a great OS with lightning fast power down, boot-up, and updates that seemed to occur even during power downs. I suspect my frustrations had as much or more to do with need for the apps to catch up to 10, rather than inherent problems in 10. I'm not a techie and could well be incorrect with that assumption. I went back to 8.1 with the philosophy that in time, the apps and OS will get things synched. My plan is to revert to 10 at some point in 2016. I shudder to think of the vast number of related software personnel that must be employed throughout the industry to keep their respective systems running seamlessly.

In 3-4 years folks will post in the Windows 11 thread:

"My old app/driver, xyz, doesn't work so I went back to Windows 10...why do they keep changing stuff?  Windows 11 sucks ass, its not ready yet!  When it stabilizes and more stuff solidifies I'll move, maybe...just for gaming."

My install has gone fine but I am a bit confused abut Windows edge vs IE

I wonder if there is any benefit from using Edge? Is it more secure? I'm not sure it seems any faster-but our connection is likely to be the limiting factor.

I'm assuming IE is going to be phased out at some point so maybe I should just get used to Edge.

Bruce