Using BubbleUpNP & Kazoo to stream Tidal to NAIM Streamers

Posted by: DUPREE on 15 August 2015

Since many people seem very unhappy with the fact you can't natively play Tidal or these other services on Naim streamers I thought I would explain how I have Tidal working and am also able to use Kazoo from my Mac to control my NAC-N 272. It works brilliantly

 

In order to do this you must install BubbleUpNP on your NAS. There is a native package for Synology. After installing, open the configuration webgui and click the "Media Renderers" tab, select your name streamer and check the box that says "Create an OpenHome Renderer", you can keep the same name or naim it whatever you like. This is what will show up in Kazoo.  Next open up Kazoo and select the renderer you created. It's that easy, you can use the Tidal functionality and use the excellent Linn GUI and still enjoy the superior sound of your NAIM streamer.

 

Posted on: 18 August 2015 by Dave The Bass

Works like a dream from my iPad.  And the irony of it all is the best bit...

Posted on: 18 August 2015 by Dave The Bass
Originally Posted by DUPREE:

Since many people seem very unhappy with the fact you can't natively play Tidal or these other services on Naim streamers I thought I would explain how I have Tidal working and am also able to use Kazoo from my Mac to control my NAC-N 272. It works brilliantly

 

In order to do this you must install BubbleUpNP on your NAS. There is a native package for Synology. After installing, open the configuration webgui and click the "Media Renderers" tab, select your name streamer and check the box that says "Create an OpenHome Renderer", you can keep the same name or naim it whatever you like. This is what will show up in Kazoo.  Next open up Kazoo and select the renderer you created. It's that easy, you can use the Tidal functionality and use the excellent Linn GUI and still enjoy the superior sound of your NAIM streamer.

 

Thanks by the way.  Should have said that in the first reply...

Posted on: 18 August 2015 by paulaskew

Thanks Dupree, this works like a dream for me too!

Looks like I'm going to keep paying for Tidal now, it sounds better than native Spotify on my UnitiQute and doesn't have to stream through my iPad like with Airplay>Apple TV.

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by MartinKocurek

I cannot find BubbleUpNP on my Synology as available SW for instalation. Can you help me to find it? I have Synology 212j

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by DUPREE
Originally Posted by MartinKocurek:

I cannot find BubbleUpNP on my Synology as available SW for instalation. Can you help me to find it? I have Synology 212j

The Bubble UpNP package can be downloaded as a Synology package from the bubblesoftapps website. In addition packages for QNAP can be found there as well. Follow the instructions, just like Minim it requires that you install the Synology Java package. It is very easy to setup and if you do a search you will see people discussing the config of it on the synology community forum... It will work the same for QNAP NAS users as it does for Synology. It also can run on a linux or mac storage server as well. 

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by MartinKocurek

supr, now it works.

Tidal works :-) Only shame I cannot use volume control for my SN2/NDX combo as with Naim app

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by DUPREE
The volume control and all the functions work perfect for me. I am using a NAC-N 272 however not an NDX, but I am surprised it would behave differently.
Bill

> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Naim Audio Forums <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
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Posted on: 19 August 2015 by MartinKocurek

Is there somebody with SN2/NDX combo and volume control is working? In Naim app it is working but not with Linn Kazoo

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by DUPREE
Are you running 4.3 Firmware?
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Naim Audio Forums <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
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Posted on: 19 August 2015 by MartinKocurek

yes 4.3. And as I am writing it works with Naim app. 

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by Dave The Bass
Originally Posted by DUPREE:
Originally Posted by MartinKocurek:

I cannot find BubbleUpNP on my Synology as available SW for instalation. Can you help me to find it? I have Synology 212j

The Bubble UpNP package can be downloaded as a Synology package from the bubblesoftapps website. In addition packages for QNAP can be found there as well. Follow the instructions, just like Minim it requires that you install the Synology Java package. It is very easy to setup and if you do a search you will see people discussing the config of it on the synology community forum... It will work the same for QNAP NAS users as it does for Synology. It also can run on a linux or mac storage server as well. 

I can confirm that the Bubble installation worked fine on QNAP HS-251. I did have to install the QNAP JRE package before it would work though.  And the Kazoo connection to both my Asset based music library and Tidal works very well, as does the Kazoo UI...

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by R.K

All working fine for Tidal via BubbleUpnp on Synology to NDS. 

Is there a way to get Qobux the same way?

Written by Qobuz

BubbleUPnP now supports Hi-Res streaming, which is good news for all of our Qobuz Sublime subscribers, since streaming your purchases in Hi-Res 24-Bit format is now possible with a subscription to Qobuz Sublime on Android. Qobuz HI-FI subscribers will be able to stream their music in true CD quality, and our PREMIUM subscribers will have access to MP3s files at 320 kbps. As for our downloaders, they can now also stream their purchases in CD quality.

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by Jumping Jack

This is excellent! Thank you. 

 

it took me only 2 minutes to install and configure on my synology nas...

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by Dave The Bass
Originally Posted by R.K:

All working fine for Tidal via BubbleUpnp on Synology to NDS. 

Is there a way to get Qobux the same way?

Written by Qobuz

BubbleUPnP now supports Hi-Res streaming, which is good news for all of our Qobuz Sublime subscribers, since streaming your purchases in Hi-Res 24-Bit format is now possible with a subscription to Qobuz Sublime on Android. Qobuz HI-FI subscribers will be able to stream their music in true CD quality, and our PREMIUM subscribers will have access to MP3s files at 320 kbps. As for our downloaders, they can now also stream their purchases in CD quality.

I think it will be when Kazoo supports it. I believe there was a version that did but Linn withdrew for software quality reasons. At least that's my understanding...

Posted on: 19 August 2015 by bubbleguuum
Originally Posted by R.K:

All working fine for Tidal via BubbleUpnp on Synology to NDS. 

Is there a way to get Qobux the same way?

Written by Qobuz

BubbleUPnP now supports Hi-Res streaming, which is good news for all of our Qobuz Sublime subscribers, since streaming your purchases in Hi-Res 24-Bit format is now possible with a subscription to Qobuz Sublime on Android. Qobuz HI-FI subscribers will be able to stream their music in true CD quality, and our PREMIUM subscribers will have access to MP3s files at 320 kbps. As for our downloaders, they can now also stream their purchases in CD quality.

Qobuz will be supported in BubbleUPnP Server the same way than TIDAL in the next BubbleUPnP Server update, not too far off. On iOS, it will require an updated Kazoo (while not necessary for Kazoo on desktop computers) because Linn has reverted a few version back until they fix an annoying bug. And it will theorically should work with the LUMIN iPad app as well (and LUMIN should already work with TIDAL).

 

Posted on: 20 August 2015 by Rowegroup

I have been using bubbleupnp app on android device to control my renderer.  It works a charm but when streaming tidal from internet I got drop outs when the phone went to sleep. I installed bubbleupnp server on my Synology  NAS last night (also have minim server) and created a open home renderer - it's fabulous - I can sream tidal playlists when the controller sleeps and am also now able to use the lumin app on my iPad.  

 

Great set of software !

Posted on: 20 August 2015 by R.K
Originally Posted by bubbleguuum:
 

Qobuz will be supported in BubbleUPnP Server the same way than TIDAL in the next BubbleUPnP Server update, not too far off. 

Excellent. Thank you. Should solve all problems. 

Posted on: 22 August 2015 by Sloop John B

I get an error installing this on my QNAP 469, anyone have this successfully working on a QNAP x86 NAS?

 

 

 

SJB

 

 

 

Posted on: 23 August 2015 by DUPREE
Did you install the correct version of Java before installing it? That is the only dependency I am aware of. Also there are different packages depending on the processor in your device as well. There is a good pdf instructions at http://www.abgestumpft.de/Bubb...PnPServer%20QPKG.pdf
Posted on: 23 August 2015 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by DUPREE:
Did you install the correct version of Java before installing it? That is the only dependency I am aware of. Also there are different packages depending on the processor in your device as well. There is a good pdf instructions at http://www.abgestumpft.de/Bubb...PnPServer%20QPKG.pdf

 

Those are the instructions I was using. I have JRE 8.6.0 for Minim server, so that shouldn't be the issue.

 

I just got the error message "installation not successful".

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 23 August 2015 by Dave The Bass
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

I get an error installing this on my QNAP 469, anyone have this successfully working on a QNAP x86 NAS?

 

 

 

SJB

 

 

 

Worked on my HS-251 ok. Did you make sure you're on the latest firmware? D

Posted on: 13 September 2015 by Naimthatune
Originally Posted by DUPREE:
 
 

Since many people seem very unhappy with the fact you can't natively play Tidal or these other services on Naim streamers I thought I would explain how I have Tidal working and am also able to use Kazoo from my Mac to control my NAC-N 272. It works brilliantly

 

In order to do this you must install BubbleUpNP on your NAS. There is a native package for Synology. After installing, open the configuration webgui and click the "Media Renderers" tab, select your name streamer and check the box that says "Create an OpenHome Renderer", you can keep the same name or naim it whatever you like. This is what will show up in Kazoo.  Next open up Kazoo and select the renderer you created. It's that easy, you can use the Tidal functionality and use the excellent Linn GUI and still enjoy the superior sound of your NAIM streamer.

 

Hi there.
 
I was excited to try this, but have had some frustrations.. I have a DS214 ,I installed the Java Manager (1.7.0_51) adn then installed the Bubble UPnP server.. Sadly, when I click on the Bubble tab, and select "run" it stops almost immediately...  I tried removing and installing twice, but never stays active... Didnt even get to looking at Kazoo!
 
Any thoughts on my configuration.. or steps I missed..  Thanks!
Posted on: 13 September 2015 by Naimthatune
Originally Posted by Naimthatune:
Originally Posted by DUPREE:
 
 

Since many people seem very unhappy with the fact you can't natively play Tidal or these other services on Naim streamers I thought I would explain how I have Tidal working and am also able to use Kazoo from my Mac to control my NAC-N 272. It works brilliantly

 

In order to do this you must install BubbleUpNP on your NAS. There is a native package for Synology. After installing, open the configuration webgui and click the "Media Renderers" tab, select your name streamer and check the box that says "Create an OpenHome Renderer", you can keep the same name or naim it whatever you like. This is what will show up in Kazoo.  Next open up Kazoo and select the renderer you created. It's that easy, you can use the Tidal functionality and use the excellent Linn GUI and still enjoy the superior sound of your NAIM streamer.

 

Hi there.
 
I was excited to try this, but have had some frustrations.. I have a DS214 ,I installed the Java Manager (1.7.0_51) adn then installed the Bubble UPnP server.. Sadly, when I click on the Bubble tab, and select "run" it stops almost immediately...  I tried removing and installing twice, but never stays active... Didnt even get to looking at Kazoo!
 
Any thoughts on my configuration.. or steps I missed..  Thanks!

Scratch that...  Found the "enable Home Services" check box...  Onwards...

 

Posted on: 14 September 2015 by Donkeyhaute

This works really nicely. Thanks!