Muso with external subwoofer
Posted by: GregWPGibbs on 12 September 2015
OK, I know the Muso is designed a an all-in-one self contained unit, but I was wondering if there is any way of adding an external powered subwoofer for AV use? My bedroom setup uses a Muso for music streaming duties - for which it is ideally suited - PLUS is connected via Toslink cable to my Sky+ box. In this secondary role, I'd like to add some bass reinforcement using a spare B&W PV1 subwoofer. I guess I'm talking about some kind of Toslink splitter/ switch with a sub output - but I doubt one exists?
You can get TOSlink splitters easily enough but what you then have is a TOSlink digital feed which isn't going to be able to connect to a sub unless your sub has a digital input (which I suspect it won't) and although theoretically you could put that digital feed into a DAC and connect that to the sub, this is not likely to be very high quality with the sort of DAC you would be likely to be willing to buy for this role and I also suspect you will have a devil of a job getting the time delay through this external DAC and your mu-so to be the same and in sync with the TV picture.
So probably the answer to your question is no, basically.
best
David
Thinking more about this, you could perhaps connect the sub to the analogue output of the Sky box, but you will need to rig a volume control and you may still have a problem of syncing with the mu-so sound, not just in time but phase as well.
so I think that is still a no, but a smaller no than the one above!
So it's
NO
or
no
Take your pick!
(Or you could be silly and use a UQ2 as a multi-room server and to drive the sub, but even then I'm not sure how volume control would work).
Thanks guys for confirming my initial suspicions.
So it's
NO
or
no
Take your pick!
(Or you could be silly and use a UQ2 as a multi-room server and to drive the sub, but even then I'm not sure how volume control would work).
...or just sell the Muso and get a Unitiqute. Oh....and some speakers!
So it's
NO
or
no
Take your pick!
(Or you could be silly and use a UQ2 as a multi-room server and to drive the sub, but even then I'm not sure how volume control would work).
...or just sell the Muso and get a Unitiqute. Oh....and some speakers!
I did say it would be silly!
The Muso more than meets my requirements for a secondary music streamer for my bedroom/ study and is very good value at £750 (no VAT in Jersey).
Hi,
I believe it is a good question. Can we add a subwoofer ?
To my ears, the Mu-so is good for trebles and mids. But the bass are not good (enough). Because they cut too early and you can ear the bass reflex effect. It isn't clean (enough).
Can we complain considering the size ? probably not.
So I would have preferred a larger Mu-so with real bass OR the ability to connect a sub.
Why making it so small if it leads to a compromise from Naim.
So I am considering adding a sub. How ?
- open the Muso
- make a connexion to the 2 woofers.
- find a proper way to add a plug
- connect a sub to the plug (high level)
I wonder if the DSP cuts the low frequencies, so that the sub won't have anything more to deliver than the muso. If so I'll lose my time. Or maybe get a cleaner , yet limited, bass.
Your ideas are welcome.
Raphael
(sorry for my english, I am french)
The answer is that you cannot add a sub to the Muso. If you would have preferred a bigger Muso, the solution is to buy a system with separate speakers.
WTF would anyone want to stick a subwoofer at the end of Muso? It was designed to be a stand alone "poshed up radio" for crying out loud.
That's the blunter version of what I was trying to say. Thanks!
Ok OK keep calm...
Very productive answer.
Extremely interesting.
Elegant as well.
If several people ask about a sub its because the sound quality of the Mu-so is hurt by its size and could be improved with more volume for bass reproduction.
The idea behind the Mu-so it to limit cables etc. Why adding a sub would be a bad idea ? You can hide it, even connect it wirelessly.
I just hope Naim will add this possibility in a future release.
If you buy a small hatchback, you don't complain that it cannot accomodate the chest of drawers. You buy an estate in the first place. A Muso is what it is: an all in one sound bar thingy. It's not the heart of a Hifi system.
If you buy a small hatchback, you don't complain that it cannot accomodate the chest of drawers. You buy an estate in the first place. A Muso is what it is: an all in one sound bar thingy. It's not the heart of a Hifi system.
But you can put a tow hitch on most small hatchbacks!
Your example makes no sense.
Can't a small hatchback have big engine ? or the latest in terms of technology ?
Yes, and this is precisely what you expect from a premium brand.
We do not agree, too bad it closed the opportunity to have a discussion.
end of the story I guess
If you buy a small hatchback, you don't complain that it cannot accomodate the chest of drawers. You buy an estate in the first place. A Muso is what it is: an all in one sound bar thingy. It's not the heart of a Hifi system.
But you can put a tow hitch on most small hatchbacks!
I have a muso and sons sound bar with sub and rear surrounds (for the TV).
Whilst the sub on the sound bar is a great addition and does give it some low end "wallop" I prefer listening to music on the muso as I feel it does a better all round job.
I guess Naim could have done something to give the option to add a sub to the muso, but it is very much marketed as a one box solution. Once you move away from one box I would think it makes sense to go the traditional amp and speakers (plus sub if required route), but appreciate we all have different wants and requirements.
I guess there is a way to connect one of these to the Muso. Just make sure the radiators are secured to the walls very tightly. Works for me.
I'm sure we all remember the terrible consequences when Doc Brown tricked out his Muso......
@ hh, @ harty
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