What's the Latest Thing You Saw at the Cinema?

Posted by: Mr Underhill on 29 April 2011

Thor

 

Got a good write up by Harry Knowles on AICN, which is no guarantee, but in this case was true.

 

Both my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Full of humour, without detracting from the central character.

 

Fairly standard device: Take a super-hero (god); strip him of his power; throw him into the hurly-burly of mortal life; etc....

 

Well executed script.

 

I actually think this is Brannagh's best outing as a director.

 

Not a great piece of cinema, but great fun.

 

M

Posted on: 27 November 2013 by Mr Underhill

Kevin-W

 

...not a poxy superhero or bit og CGI in sight

 

Different strokes, though it WOULD include CGI if made today.

 

I do enjoy GWTW, I re-watched it a few months ago, although I prefer the first half, just a romantic i suppose and The Rise is always more affirming than the Fall.

 

Good film.

 

M

Posted on: 09 December 2013 by count.d

Saw Gravity in 3d a couple of weeks ago and as others have said, it was amazing. It wasn't a film, it was an experience.

Posted on: 13 December 2013 by Mr Underhill

The Desolation of Me

 

I am starting to really get bugged by Peter Jackson. On the one hand I love his passion, on the other he really needs someone to STOP him, and NOW.

 

Some brilliant work here is spoiled, for me, by the OTT nature of .....well, everything. Tolkien is in there somewhere, just buried under a mountain of Jacksonesque exaggeration.

 

Sigh.

 

M

Posted on: 14 December 2013 by m0omo0

Wholeheartedly agree.

 

Everything is so artificially impressive, ugly and boring in this movie that it made me sick. The dwarf make-up is ugly, the CGI to make the make-up look good is ugly, the skin-changer is ugly, Stephen Fry's character is ugly, Dol Guldur is ugly, Smaug is ugly, I could go on and on.

 

Plus, I wondered why they forgot to make a proper image mastering: at some point the picture is so un-cinematographically realistic (strengthened by the 3D I guess) that I felt like I was watching for the making-of documentary, looking at actors playing instead of characters.

 

All the illusion is lost, and with it goes the magic of cinema.

Posted on: 17 December 2013 by count.d

Saw The Desolation of Smaug in 3D HFR on Sunday and enjoyed it. It doesn't seem right to criticise these masterpieces. The 3D HFR is incredible and takes time to adjust to the clarity of the characters. They are so crisp in relation to the background, they do tend to take one's concentration away. It can lead to thinking this is not cinema, but there again, should the whole picture look diffused, so we can enjoy soft images like what we're used to?

 

HFR 3d is probably on the cards for many films in the future and it's certainly a cinematic experience.

 

 

Posted on: 17 December 2013 by EJS

The Desolation of Smaug, in 3d high frame rate. After a ho-hum first movie which combined enjoyable parts with some irritating attempts at light hearted humor, this one was surprisingly fun throughout. I never cared much for the book so don't mind most of the film was imagined by Jackson's crew. Looking forward to the concluding third!

 

One thing: I'm not sure, but thought Gandalf didn't yet know about Sauron in Fellowship. Or did he?

 

EJ

Posted on: 18 December 2013 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by count.d:

Saw The Desolation of Smaug in 3D HFR on Sunday and enjoyed it. It doesn't seem right to criticise these masterpieces. The 3D HFR is incredible and takes time to adjust to the clarity of the characters. They are so crisp in relation to the background, they do tend to take one's concentration away. It can lead to thinking this is not cinema, but there again, should the whole picture look diffused, so we can enjoy soft images like what we're used to?

 

HFR 3d is probably on the cards for many films in the future and it's certainly a cinematic experience.

 

 

I was dragged to this the other day while looking after a young relative, and I have to say that it is technically very impressive, but a long way from being a masterpiece.

 

It is another piece of Jackson hackwork, nothing more: entertaining if you're into all that elf guff, but as a piece of cinema it is desperately shallow, and highlights the problem that has faced mainstream cinema ever since the box-office failures of true (if flawed) masterpieces like Malick's Days of Heaven and Coppola's Apocalypse Now in the late 1970s; and the all-conquering success of the ultimate hack directors George Lucas and David Cameron, which is a progressive infantilising of the language of cinema.

 

As someone who was wowed by the magic of movies even before he was intoxicated by music, I find the current state of mainstream cinema deeply depressing. The most distressing decline of all is to be found in the films of that former master of the mainstream, Spielberg. This is the man who made wonderful movies like Jaws and Duel FFS.

 

The Desolation of Smaug is not a bad movie by any means but it is in no way a masterpiece, and certainly not above criticism. Remove the technological innovations like HFR and 3D and you have at worst nothing, at best not much. It's a bit like Kubrick, a man who made wonderful films like Dr Strangelove and Paths of Glory, until his obsession with technology on films like 2001 made him forget about movies and just make cold - if initially  impressive - exercises in crowd-pleasing.

 

The great film-makers are people like Renoir, Dreyer, Welles, Powell & Pressberger, Ozu, Hawks, Murnau, Vidor, Bergman, Lubitsch, Lang, both Rays, Wilder, Huston, Curtiz, Scorsese, Scott  and Lean (sometimes!), Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Paradjanov, Ford, Kiarostami, Lynch, Cronenberg, Christiansen, Tarr, Almodovar, Leone, Peckinpah, Dassin, Fellini, Besson, Mizoguchi, Griffifth, Sturges, Sirk, Cukor, Penn... most of them are dead, and most of the others work on the margins.

 

There are good directors, like Fincher, Nolan and JJ Abrams (whose Star Trek movies seem to me to be thoughtful blockbusters, in the way that Kubrick's Spartacus and Exodus were half a century ago) but I wish they would look back at the masters and take something from them.

 

I watch The Desolation of Smaug  and I can't remember much about it, and I wouldn't be arsed if I never saw it again. But A Matter of Life And Death, Citizen Kane, Gone With The Wind, The Passion of Joan Of Arc, Tokyo Story, The Godfather, Badlands, Casablanca, La Regle Du Jeu, Vertigo, Songs of Our Forgotten Ancestors, Pather Panchali, Double Indemnity, Twentieth Century, Duel, Lawrence of Arabia, Taxi Driver, The Adventures of Robin Hood... they all possess an indefinable magic and transportative powers that tramples all over the unimaginative hackwork of Cameron and Jackson.

 

People are very sniffy about television but all the best stuff - Mad Men, Borgen, Breaking Bad to name but three: character-driven stories, stunningly shot without resort to high-tech trickery or superhero/elf shenanigans - is being made for TV, not the cinema. That is very sad.

 

Many people on this forum say that young people would get into hi-fi if they were only exposed to just how good music can sound on a decent system; I completely agree. Similarly, I would say to you, go and watch a proper film by a great like Carl Dreyer, Jean Renoir, Hitch or Michael Powell and Emeric Pressberger. Then you'll see the real magic of movies.

 

Life's too short to watch elves in 3D.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 18 December 2013 by count.d

I can see where your opinion is coming from Kevin, but no film is perfect, probably never will be. TDOS is a fairly shallow film, but the technical aspect is incredible and the 3d HFR is just part of the illusion. As an illusion for me, it was a masterpiece and a great night out in the cinema. That's all that matters.

 

To be fair, you have just listed films which impressed you and I'm sure we all have separate lists that mean much to each of us.  

Posted on: 18 December 2013 by N16SPS

 I couldn't agree more Kevin this is a time when I wish we had the 'like' button! Dont forget Scorsese and Capra - Perfect time of the year to Watch ' A Wonderful Life'

 

Life's too short to watch elves in 3D.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 19 December 2013 by Sniper
 

One thing: I'm not sure, but thought Gandalf didn't yet know about Sauron in Fellowship. Or did he?

 

EJ

Not sure what you are asking but Sauron had been around for many an age before Bilbo Baggins as had Gandalf. 

Posted on: 19 December 2013 by count.d

Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs ......... ground breaking, classic, shallow, includes dwarfs.....masterpiece.

Posted on: 19 December 2013 by BigH47

Methinks some of you are unable to suspend belief for "modern"  films.

 

Fine stick to the single shot, 15 minute screen progressions then! 

Posted on: 19 December 2013 by count.d

..............meant groundbreaking.

Posted on: 26 December 2013 by joerand

The Wolf of Wall Street.

 

Just got back with the family from the cinema; seems to have become our Xmas night tradition. The Wolf would have been uncomfortable to watch at two hours and unfortunately it is three hours long. If you are into a lot of meaningless debauchery and long scenes of actors posing like functional drug addicts you may enjoy this. Some folks in the crowded theatre were laughing at these drawn-out scenes, but I just didn't get it. I liked Scorsese's "Good Fellas" a lot. The Wolf seemed like a rehash of the same story set a decade or two later. DeCaprio is good, but his acting and esp camera asides look like conscious efforts to capture Ray Liotta's style from Good Fellas. Just another cookbook recipe from Scorsese. Bright spot in the movie was the role and acting of Margot Robbie .

 

I'd recommend skip The Wolf, at least in the theatre, and go rent Good Fellas. I'm sure some here will find more positive to say about it. My 18 yo son is a big fan of DiCaprio and he liked the movie.

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by N16SPS:

 I couldn't agree more Kevin this is a time when I wish we had the 'like' button! Dont forget Scorsese and Capra - Perfect time of the year to Watch ' A Wonderful Life'

 

Life's too short to watch elves in 3D.

 

 

 

 

 

Naah. It was OK. Took our two boys and two of their friends yesterday. Enjoyed it. I didn't even think it was too long. The dwarfs' invincibility was slightly more plausible than the first one (which is to say, still wholly implausible). The elves' combat skills are beyond impressive and about as implausible as the dwarves' ability to survive. And the new elf, Tauriel is smokin' hot.

 

3D was a bit distracting (I only really like 3D on fully animated movies - and on "Gravity"). It wasn't the HFR version. The movie seems to have been shot with "shutter speeds" to match the HFR so it stutters a bit on some pans and action at normal frame-rates but it was totally watchable.

 

Does anyone else think Smaug was a lot like Rattlesanke Jake from Rango? (one of the great animated movies b.t.w.)

Posted on: 29 December 2013 by Haim Ronen

Posted on: 30 December 2013 by joerand

Haim,

Based on the left and the right panels it looks like a potentially intriguing movie, but can you provide any details as to your impression of it?

Posted on: 31 December 2013 by Haim Ronen
Originally Posted by joerand:

Haim,

Based on the left and the right panels it looks like a potentially intriguing movie, but can you provide any details as to your impression of it?

We have here the same director and actors from  "Silver Lining Playbook" (which I liked better) in a film about con artists forced to work for the FBI based on a real case from the 1970s. Well acted, quite entertaining but not too deep:

 

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0...356_20721930,00.html

 

 

Posted on: 31 December 2013 by joerand

Thanks Haim. Looks intriguing.

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by Adam Meredith

I thought American Hustle was a mess from beginning to end - with Bradley Cooper especially irksome. His performance did allow me to watch Christian Bale as, for once, not the worst part of any film he's been in.

 

I think he was rather good but it might just have been in contrast.

 

The film only came alive, for me. when Jennifer Lawrence was on-screen (apart from one ill-directed scene).

 

As I'd never seen her before this was a pleasant discovery but doesn't make a film.

 

 

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by Mr Underhill

Adam,

 

Watch Winter's Bone - great film and performance.

 

M

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by Christopher_M

All is lost. Surely the disaster film equivalent of the Naim nait, just stripped to the basic essentials and somehow the better for it.

 

Chris

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by Christopher_M
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
....the all-conquering success of the ultimate hack directors George Lucas and David Cameron...

Er, it's Matt Lucas isn't it?! 

 

C.

Posted on: 02 January 2014 by Mr Underhill

American Hustle

 

This is the best film I have watched in an age. No pretentiousness - just wry observation and humour, I found myself laughing out load through the whole piece.

 

I loved the fact that I could empathise with all the main characters, no one was drawn as good or evil, just trying to muddle through; and when violence did occur it shocked.

 

I should point out that my wife hated it, as did a group of lads who were walking out the cinema behind us; my wife prefers something more linear, the lads wanted something more adolescent I believe.

 

M

Posted on: 12 January 2014 by Mr Underhill

12 Years A Slave

 

Very powerful stuff. Worth seeing.

 

M