Qute, n-stream long texts

Posted by: okli on 12 May 2011

Hi,

 

It is very annoying (at least for me) that the long text are cut on the playback screen on Qute as well as in the nstream iphone application. So, if I have a new album I have no chance to see, which music track is playing currently - on Qute I'm seeing only the first part of it and no indication of the track number, so even if I go back to the list screen (on which the long texts are scrolling wonderful) I don't know for which track number to look for. On nstream I don't have any chance to see the full names anywhere in the hole application. As I stated very annoying with classical albums, where you have track names starting with the concert name and at the end the part of it, so you'll have several tracks with the same starting name and differences only at the end. So, is there any trick I've overlooked to see the long texts or this is really missing, but annoying for me only? 

Posted on: 12 May 2011 by DavidDever
Don't know what the limitations of list-character length are for UPnP list processing, but common sense dictates that, from a user interface perspective, scrolling only works so far. Anybody know what the limits are? EBU tag length maximums?
Posted on: 12 May 2011 by okli

Yes, scrolling on Qute will be a perfect solution - actually I wonder why this is not implemented on the playback screen as it is in the list view. And showing of the track number on the top line will be nice. In nstream it is sufficient on the playback screen to show a "popup" with the full name by tapping the track name similar to the popup showing the time counter and additional track info - or may be integrating the track name / album name inside this popup. As for the list view may be additional line or scrolling effect combined with horizontal layout.

Posted on: 12 May 2011 by Peter_RN

Hello Okli

 

Well, I can assure you that you are not alone on this one. As you may remember I don’t use wireless so am unable to comment on the apps but certainly find that the Qute’s screen read-out is frankly worse that useless for Classical works in particular, as you say.

 

I am finding it increasingly frustrating trying to find a solution to controlling the stream in a sustainable long term way. I had expected that I could run a control point on a small computer (netbook/laptop) that would prove perfectly satisfactorily but have found that those I have tried crash or simply do not function well at all. This I do realise does not necessarily mean that the Qute is the problem; it may be the DNLA server on my NAS, or simply that they don’t interact well together, I just don’t know.

 

Anyway, I’m with you, we do need a way of seeing which track is playing at all times. At least the Qute through the nDAC continues to produce excellent sound; if only it’s control/display could be of the same high stranded.

 

Trust you are well,

Peter

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 16 May 2011 by okli

Hello Peter,

 

somehow overlooked your post, but it seems that this topic does not make a lot of noise on the forum, so either we are the only two "veterans" still listening classical music or all others know all classical works by hard ;-). I know, if one is in Vienna he should know by hard at least the works of all Vienna classical composers, but I'm not sure if I'll pass this test - they were too productive :-).

 

As for the n-stream I'm starting to use more and more the remote control due to bugs / speed or may be bad luck. For example, I've upgraded my iTunes, iPhone and n-stream yesterday  to the latest versions - took appr. an hour with my connection - only to find that n-stream refuses to find my Qute after that. 

 

So, you are quite right - we have to wait till the software products from Naim become more mature and catch up with the superior quality of their audio equipment.

 

have a nice week!

Posted on: 16 May 2011 by Peter_RN
Originally Posted by okli:

Hello Peter,

 

 I know, if one is in Vienna he should know by hard at least the works of all Vienna classical composers, but I'm not sure if I'll pass this test - they were too productive :-).

 

Hello Okli

 

Well I don’t know about that! A very quick count of my Mozart works shows well over 40 were composed in Vienna and I only have a 1/4 - 1/3 of his output, I’m sure there must be more. Now if I was George….. but I am not, I just enjoy listening to the music but have no technical knowledge. I admire those that have a good knowledge of music and those that can play it even more.

 

I like you am very surprised that more have not commented on this thread I really can’t believe that this is a problem only we have.

 

Enjoy the music, bye for now.

Peter

Posted on: 16 May 2011 by TJ

Hi Chaps,

Point taken, I'll see if we can improve handling of long track names in a future release. As for your connection problems Peter, the latest iPhone release seems to have proken UPnP discovery for some people. I'll start another thread for more info on this issue

Regards

Tom

Posted on: 16 May 2011 by Peter_RN

Hello Tom

 

Many thanks for taking this issue on board; I’m sure that there will be many, other than Okli and I, who will appreciate it if your efforts prove successful.

 

As for my connection problems I do not use wireless so it’s not an app: problem.

 

In fact you may be the Tom, (in Engineering), that I spoke to when the Qute was announced and was then able to build mine with the wireless removed, if so, we would thank you again for your help at that time.

 

Personally, I am trying to find a control point that will run on a netbook, mainly tried Kinsky and Asset. Only Asset runs for more than one or two tracks before locking up the computer requiring Task Manager to close the program and regain use.

 

The statistics on my HP smart switch indicate that there are no issues on any ports in the replay chain. I suspect the DLNA server on the ReadyNAS, some form of compatibility issue. I will continue experimenting; the remote works fine.

 

Regards

Peter  

 

Posted on: 17 May 2011 by TJ

Hi Peter,

Yes it was me you spoke to. I'd be surprised if the control point issues you are experiencing are due to the NAS or to theUPnP server on the NAS. More likely a problem with the control point software but not having used Kinsky or Asset control in anger I cannot really comment on them.

 

You might try Windows 7 media player. That should be able to act as a control point to a certain extent. Again, I've not used it for any length of time but a quick check shows it to work to some degree. In WMP the different UPnP servers show up on the left hand tab on the program. Browse to the album you want the right click > Play to. Another window pops up to show the play queue for your Uniti and allows you to change track and volume etc.

Posted on: 17 May 2011 by okli
Originally Posted by TJ:

Hi Chaps,

Point taken, I'll see if we can improve handling of long track names in a future release. As for your connection problems Peter, the latest iPhone release seems to have proken UPnP discovery for some people. I'll start another thread for more info on this issue

Regards

Tom

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think you mistaken me with Peter regarding the connection issue. Don't mind - thanks for sharing this info here and on your thread - I'll try to set up the connection manually in n-stream to see if this helps. And thanks for looking at the issue with the long texts - I'll highly appreciate if you sort it out in some of the next releases!

 

regards,

Ilko

Posted on: 17 May 2011 by Peter_RN

Thanks Tom…..I will take your thoughts/advice on board. The Asset software is still in development so will certainly improve.

 

Okli…..Sorry for the aside, I appreciate your tolerance and Toms advice. It is excellent that your request may well bring a worthwhile improvement.

 

Regards to you both

Peter