Doing the Tidal update if not going to use Tidal.....

Posted by: Bruce Woodhouse on 08 October 2015

I have no intention of using Tidal (even the 90 day trial) at home, not least because our internet connection is too slow and variable to make even internet radio much of an option!

 

Is there anything in the latest update that makes it worth doing for my NDS anyway (perhaps apart from keeping it current for whatever the next upgrade will be).

 

Bruce

Posted on: 08 October 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Bruce, absolutely, there are some dropout issues for local media play that have been fixed that appeared for some users in the earlier firmware, also the TCP stack, and the network discovery algorithms have been improved.

Simon

 

Posted on: 08 October 2015 by Bert Schurink

According to the website this is the change. For the Muso the changes seem to be more elaborate...

 

 

What’s new?

  • Support for TIDAL streaming service
  • Update to clock and alarm feature - user now has the option to set product to adjust for DST (Daylight Saving Time) automatically or manually
  • Improvements to IGMP protocol to enhance product discovery
  • Other minor bug fixes and performance improvements
Posted on: 08 October 2015 by Bruce Woodhouse

I had no idea my TCP stack or IGMP protocols were in need of improvement.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 08 October 2015 by hungryhalibut

Well, now you do know, you won't be able to sleep soundly in your bed until the update is done..... It is worth doing as there are lots of stability improvements and with the new app it's nice and zippy. Time to dust off that USB cable. 

Posted on: 09 October 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

The IGMP part only effects those using modern broadband routers that are more optimised for multicast such as IPTV. The previous multicast method used by Naim discovery was an older more basic standard which has been superseded in many cases where consumer multicast is actively used, such IP TV and other live video streaming services, and this could result from broadband routers appearing to 'block' discovery. If you read the forum more and more users were running into this and having to bypass with 'proxy' basic  switches to circumvent multicast management altogether.. Possibly causing issues later on..

The TCP stack was optimised for Tidal, but from what I can understand it would also benefit local media streaming on a less than ideal link such as wifi or Ethernet over powerline.

 

Posted on: 09 October 2015 by ChrisSU
For me, the latest firmware and iOS app seem to be the most stable and reliable versions to date, so I'd agree that it's worth updating anyway.
Posted on: 09 October 2015 by Bruce Woodhouse
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

The IGMP part only effects those using modern broadband routers that are more optimised for multicast such as IPTV. The previous multicast method used by Naim discovery was an older more basic standard which has been superseded in many cases where consumer multicast is actively used, such IP TV and other live video streaming services, and this could result from broadband routers appearing to 'block' discovery. If you read the forum more and more users were running into this and having to bypass with 'proxy' basic  switches to circumvent multicast management altogether.. Possibly causing issues later on..

The TCP stack was optimised for Tidal, but from what I can understand it would also benefit local media streaming on a less than ideal link such as wifi or Ethernet over powerline.

 

Simon, as ever I appreciate your posts but understand just a tiny percentage. I'll trust your always evident knowledge; and just get it done

 

One day you'll ask me a medical question and I'll blind you with TLA's and jargon in return.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 09 October 2015 by Mike-B

Hi Bruce,  I would advise to keep up to date on firmware & software rev's not matter what you might or might not use.  I make a point of doing so no matter if its Naim or any other service, Synology, Canon, PVR etc.,  Windows-10 is a good example albeit a lot easier than Naim as it does it all itself.

 

I have taken to turning off what I don't use in the app settings to de-clutter the app screen so that my app screen only shows what I use on a regular basis, no Spotify or USB,   So if you are not using Tidal, it gets loaded but just set the setting to off & its not visible but only a screen touch to bring it back.

 

Tidal aside & all that good stuff Simon sez (there's a song there somewhere) I have found the fix for the 24/192 PCM & DSD momentary drop outs to be the most noticeable success.