speaker cable for Uniti Qute 2

Posted by: Paristhea on 10 October 2015

I have a UQ2 which i will connect to 8 ohm speakers, the Linn 109's.

 

Do i have to use the NAIM speaker cable NACA5, i think i asked this question before many months, but i lost the answer.

 

Basically i would prefer it i could use something other than the NACA5 as the NACA5 is very stiff and difficult to arrange it in a nice and tidy manner.  

 

If anyone knows, is it possible to use another speaker cable, if so which speaker cable is a correct alternative?

 

Regards,

Posted on: 10 October 2015 by Paristhea

Correction:

 

The speakers impedance is 4 Ohms, not 8 Ohms that i stated above.

Posted on: 10 October 2015 by hafler3o

No you don't have to. I use Linn K20 (amazingly 'like' old NACA4) there are other alternatives of course! Avoid high capacitance, high cost altervatives and all will be well.

Posted on: 10 October 2015 by Crabby
People recommended I look at chord and tellurium q. cables. Best is you try at home. Let us know what you choose
Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Richard Dane

Try to chose the cable on basis of performance and not on "stiffness".  

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Crabby
Anyone can comment on what is recommended length for tellurium q black. I need just 1.5 m each side but recommended seems to be 2m up to 3.5m. Shorter seems to have an impact on amps. Apologies but I didn't catch up with the logic yet. I will appreciate a feedback from users. Shorter cable means I can afford it up to 2m. Less is perfect, more is difficult and may look at chord odyssey. I will try both obviously...
Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Skip

We set ours up with the speaker cables from Crimson Electronics.   They sound great.   Check w Peter at Venice Audio.

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Paristhea
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Try to chose the cable on basis of performance and not on "stiffness".  

Surely Richard, but why on earth Naim make this speaker cabe to be stiff?  I assume there is a good reason?

Does Naim offer an alternative solution to its customers?

Also it seems i only have one set of Naim speaker connector on the amp, which i am using on the NAP 100.  Can i use ordinary banana plugs on the UQ2 speaker outlet, or is there a reason to use the Naim connector?

Regards,

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Paristhea
Originally Posted by hafler3o:

No you don't have to. I use Linn K20 (amazingly 'like' old NACA4) there are other alternatives of course! Avoid high capacitance, high cost altervatives and all will be well.

I borrowed the K20 from a friend, it is ok but no comparison to the NACA5, i am afraid.

I did the ultimate test, as i have the UQ2 and the NAC-N272 with NAP100, so i tested it with same music same speakers, and just swapped cables.

You will be surprised to hear that the UQ2 with NACA5 direct to the speakers, sounded better than the NAC-N272 + NAP100 with the K20 speaker cable.

So maybe something else might work, but not the K20.

P.S. i didn't have the Naim socket for the amp connection, so i just inserted banana plugs instead.  Don't know if this makes a difference to the sound.

Regards,

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Richard Dane

Yes, use the Speaker connectors that come with the kit - they're a perfect match to the 4mm sockets and this really does seem to make a difference.  

 

NACA5 was not made stiff by design, more as a byproduct of the materials used, which just happened to be superior to others used previously that were more flexible.

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Paristhea
Originally Posted by Richard Dane:

Yes, use the Speaker connectors that come with the kit - they're a perfect match to the 4mm sockets and this really does seem to make a difference.  

 

NACA5 was not made stiff by design, more as a byproduct of the materials used, which just happened to be superior to others used previously that were more flexible.

 

I tried the NACA5 cable with the UQ2 (which is fitted with the NAiM connectors) and it does sound better than the other options i tried (K20 and Pulse D-Fi).

 

I agree, the choice should be based on sound not on "stiffness".

 

Regards,

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by hafler3o
Originally Posted by Paristhea:
 

You will be surprised to hear that the UQ2 with NACA5 direct to the speakers, sounded better than the NAC-N272 + NAP100 with the K20 speaker cable.

Suprised indeed, so suprised in fact I don't believe it.

There must be something wrong with the K20 or connections, I can do the test myself with identical (5m) lengths of both on Qutes and SU and the K20 is not that poor, slightly less bite in the treble. Nothing you would jump out your chair over! If the 272 / 100 is worse than a bare Qute just by changing the wires, then there's more 'going on' than the wires here.

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by Paristhea
Originally Posted by hafler3o:
Originally Posted by Paristhea:
 

You will be surprised to hear that the UQ2 with NACA5 direct to the speakers, sounded better than the NAC-N272 + NAP100 with the K20 speaker cable.

Suprised indeed, so suprised in fact I don't believe it.

There must be something wrong with the K20 or connections, I can do the test myself with identical (5m) lengths of both on Qutes and SU and the K20 is not that poor, slightly less bite in the treble. Nothing you would jump out your chair over! If the 272 / 100 is worse than a bare Qute just by changing the wires, then there's more 'going on' than the wires here.

I was thinking the same, to tell you the truth.

The K20 is not soldered on the banana plugs, it is screwed only.  Secondly, it is only 3m long (each side), not 5m long.  In fact my NACA5 is only 3.5m each side, too.

It may be that it is poorly made, i am not sure.

One more thing, is it supposed to be directional?  If so i can not find any markers. 

As i said at the start, i borrowed this from a friend.

But the K20 is better sounding than the Pulse D-Fi.

 

Regards,

 

Posted on: 11 October 2015 by hafler3o

Yes the K20 is directional, the K (linn) logo should point toward the speakers, but I don't think that is of much importance compared to the 'screw' terminals (they tend to fracture and break some of the strands)

I have Chord Company bare banana plugs (soldered) with their heatshrink sleeves at the speaker ends. If you are sticking with the NACA5 work out your bends then use a hairdryer to soften it up, it cools rigid(ish) again.

Posted on: 12 October 2015 by Paristhea
Originally Posted by hafler3o:

Yes the K20 is directional, the K (linn) logo should point toward the speakers, but I don't think that is of much importance compared to the 'screw' terminals (they tend to fracture and break some of the strands)

I have Chord Company bare banana plugs (soldered) with their heatshrink sleeves at the speaker ends. If you are sticking with the NACA5 work out your bends then use a hairdryer to soften it up, it cools rigid(ish) again.

Ok, i did the test again.

 

Fair enough, the K20 with the NAC-N272 does sound better than the NACA5 with the UQ2, but only just, and because of the NAC-N272.

The other way around there is a huge difference.  The bass is quite good and punchy with the K20, but it lacks the highs.

I also observed that the UQ2 does sound considerably better with the NACA5 than the K20.  There again, the K20 is just £5 per metre length and the NACA5 is £30 per metre length.  It is expected to sound better.  Whether it is worth the extra dosh, this is subjective and to the judgment of each individual.  Overall, yes the K20 is acceptable, but i prefer the sound of the NACA5, personally.

Regards,