Turntable on the Naim Fraim

Posted by: marcobb on 13 October 2015

Hi Folks,

 

How do you feel the turntable on the Naim Fraim ? Is it Good ? Any performance upgraded or degraded ?

 

Cheers,

marcobb

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by phosphocreatine

If you look in the Linn forum there is a topic called "show us your LP12" that is nearly 400 pages long and where you can find pics of the different LP12: most of the turntables sit either on a dedicated shelf attachet on a wall or on Naim Fraim's !

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by Frank Abela

There are other brands of turntable too...

 

Most turntables work fine on the Fraim. I've not heard a turntable sound worse on Fraim than another rack. That said, I haven't heard all the turntables available...

 

Regards,
Frank.
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Posted on: 14 October 2015 by Steve J

Turntables on Fraim works well with a solid floor but a wall shelf like the Vulcan is better with a suspended floor.

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by Dev B

I personally feel wall shelves and TT don't mix - however, the Fraim is epic for a record player. We have a Phonosophie P3 which loves a Fraim. I have had Mana, Hutter, Project, etc in the past. The Mana shelf is excellent, not sure about the old Audiotech or Quadraspire, seemed to flatten the dynamics of the deck. Also the type of wall you have is just as important as shelf itself. You may have to decouple the shelf from the wall with slightly different mounts.

 

Regards.

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by Skip

It works well w my Verdier, but it transmits quite a bit of feedback when played loud.  It looks great and sounds good at moderate levels.

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by J.N.

I'm very happy with how my LP12 sounds on Fraim, but will concede that a good wall-shelf is arguably optimal. I don't have one because I can't cope with a lump of angle-iron sticking out of the wall and cables dangling therefrom.

 

John.

Posted on: 14 October 2015 by Sneaky SNAIC
Originally Posted by Steve J:

Turntables on Fraim works well with a solid floor but a wall shelf like the Vulcan is better with a suspended floor.

Haven't been in this long, but I never liked the idea of a turntable on top of the rack.  I went Vulcan pretty early, even with a cheap turntable.  Done, no worries anymore...slam dunk.

 

On to the next thing...there are not many things I've found which can be solved so easily in hi-fi.

 

P.S.  I like the height to, its more natural when flipping records.

 

P.S.S.  Mine is drilled into a brick wall that was a hearth...red brick and black metal look ok.

Posted on: 15 October 2015 by marcobb

Thanks everyone comment 

Posted on: 15 October 2015 by Loki

Separate is best: decouples from the mass of the rest. A separate Fraim stack dedicated to LP12 loveliness would be a good investment methinks. Personally I use floor mounted Audiotech on a concrete base inserted to the foundations through a sprung wooden floor. Epic.

 

 

Posted on: 15 October 2015 by naim_nymph

Going from naim fraim to VulKan brought about very nice improvements in natural timbre and detail with my LP12, and even though my floor is concrete and wall stud & plasterboard. It's all very odd i know, but i'm not complaining. In fact the fraim had the strange ability to suck the life and soul out of my LP12 in comparison so it won't be going back on there in a hurry.

 

Far better Aro cueing height too, and another excellent reason for having a wall shelf is the way so many components benefit from sitting on the fraim top shelf, it frees up a precious top shelf space for the Radikal or pre-amp or CDS or 500, no they can't all go on top, but getting the turntable off the fraim is a win win situation.

 

Debs 

Posted on: 16 October 2015 by tonym

I've been using a Mana Reference wall shelf for donkey's years but I did try my LP12 on top of the Fraim as an experiment and was surprised how much it degraded the sound. The Fraim rests on oak boards sitting on a compressed flint & mud floor.

Posted on: 16 October 2015 by Stormange

I have been using two wallshelfs with my LP12. The last one was a Quadraspire. Putting the LP12 on top of a Fraim was a revelation. A lot more music coming through. The heaviest item on the fiveshelf Fraim is a SN2. I think a heavily loaded Fraim with "large transformer" black boxes would be bad for LP12-sound.