'The Humped Chub' (mullet taxonomy)

Posted by: Donkeyhaute on 27 October 2015

'The Humped Chub'.

 

I'm not selling lurid DVDs, and this isn't a general exhortation for people to rush about humping chubs. Neither am I a lonely chub. 

 

It's essentially a meaningless quickie that might, briefly, lift the veils of sorrow  - like what your Mum does.

 

It's also the new name I'd like to propose to describe my brother's gloriously unfinished* hifi. 

 

It stands as an abandoned folly:  a hymn to absent mindedness and ambition. Whenever I see it, I wince. 

 

Like an excitable chap spelling 'banana', he knew how to start, but not necessarily how to finish.

 

The first thing he did was drop a few thousand pounds on a Roksan Pre/Power combination. One of those ones named after early Persian emperors, or princesses that Alexander the Great had ransacked.  I was, as you'd expect, manfully crying 'Naim! Naim!' from the sidelines but he's much bigger than I am.

 

To these pretty admirable amplifiers, he connected his very old, budget MA Bronze Something-or Others. They once won an award in a hifi magazine for being the best bookshelf speakers, available on discount, with bronze-coloured woofers, for about £250 to students or larcenous builders. Let's say they got this award about a decade ago. It doesn't really matter because both of them are blown. I haven't the heart to point this out to him. I'd gone croaky from shouting 'Naim'.

 

Current state of play is x£K of amp (I genuinely can't hear if they are any good but suspect so), connected to very blown £250 speakers. To front this, I think he normally uses a Dac built in the East of England in a town known for its dubious, web-footed scholarship. This, too, won an award from a renowned hifi magazine. For Best-Use-of-a-Sine-Wave-on-metal-casing. Three years on the trot, I believe.

 

It was at this point that I felt compelled, as the elder brother, to sit him down and explain painful things to him about system balance, basic human reproduction and the quickest way out of Stoke Penge.

 

Consequently, and almost immediately, he spent £300 on interconnects from a company that normally limits its commercial efforts to the building of reasonably-priced domestic toasters. They had gold things on each end and the cable was semi-translucent.   When I tut-tutted a bit he improved things hugely by dropping another £100 on a power lead into the DAC. It had blue bits on it. At this point I rather felt that he stopped listening to me, so I slunk out. He also uses Spotify Premium a lot. 

 

So there we stand. 320kbps through a retired work laptop, into a goodish but aged and budget dac, through many pounds of amp, into flatulent budget speakers. 

 

What do we call such a thing?

 

* I asked him why he'd abandoned the rest of his plans after the amp bit, and he cited childish things like getting onto the property market, getting married, honeymoons,etc etc. After some of these things were achieved, he started moaning about the cost of water-proofing flat roofs when dealing with truculent and delinquent Irish builders. So, frankly, weak, weak excuses. I'm pushing him towards a 272 front and and whatever speakers he likes the lies of. 

Posted on: 27 October 2015 by nigelb

Why don't you drag your brother down to the nearest Naim dealer and make him listen and he might then realise how misguided he has been. He is clearly not listening to his wiser, smaller brother.

 

He may then be prompted to admit his hifi failings, sell his Humped Chub and realise his brother was right all along.

 

During this process however I suggest your brother stays clear of flat roofs and getting married again.

 

As to what we might call your brother's hifi folley, how about an octopus because it is all over the place?

 

Night night

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Huge

Some people genuinely cannot hear the difference between a half way decent midi system (such as the Denon M39) and a full Naim system - it's sad but true.  They have so little feeling for music that they're missing out on so much, not just in reproduced music, but live performances as well.  But then again they've never had any relevant experience, so they don't know what it is they're missing.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Huge
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

...

I was, as you'd expect, manfully crying 'Naim! Naim!' from the sidelines but he's much bigger than I am.

...

I would have thought you had considerable experience dealing with giants, even if mistakenly!

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

 

* I asked him why he'd abandoned the rest of his plans after the amp bit, and he cited childish things like getting onto the property market, getting married, honeymoons,etc etc. After some of these things were achieved, he started moaning about the cost of water-proofing flat roofs when dealing with truculent and delinquent Irish builders. So, frankly, weak, weak excuses. I'm pushing him towards a 272 front and and whatever speakers he likes the lies of. 

 

Was it the fact they were Irish that made them delinquent do you think, or the fact they were builders? What type of car did they drive, maybe that's the pertinent key to their delinquency?

Did they believe in Allah, Jehovah or Cameron, maybe that's the key?

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

 

* I asked him why he'd abandoned the rest of his plans after the amp bit, and he cited childish things like getting onto the property market, getting married, honeymoons,etc etc. After some of these things were achieved, he started moaning about the cost of water-proofing flat roofs when dealing with truculent and delinquent Irish builders. So, frankly, weak, weak excuses. I'm pushing him towards a 272 front and and whatever speakers he likes the lies of. 

 

Was it the fact they were Irish that made them delinquent do you think, or the fact they were builders? What type of car did they drive, maybe that's the pertinent key to their delinquency?

Did they believe in Allah, Jehovah or Cameron, maybe that's the key?

 

 

SJB

In this specific instance they happened to be truculent, delinquent and Irish, all at the same time. Separately, these are all commendable achievements. When trying to fix a roof, they combined to create a kerfuffle.

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Sloop John B

What did being Irish add  to truculence and delinquency?

 

Try putting Jewish, black, Asian or African into the sentence, you might see how offensive it can be. 

 

 

SJB

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

It's a syllogism to suggest the three combine ineluctably, and eternally, to produce kerfuffles about domestic works, as I'm sure you can see. 

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

He's also fairly combustible when arguing about ruined flat roofs with the vertebrate biped whom he paid to fix them. But this is beside the point I think. 

 

If it really upsets you SJB, I'll happily delete the entire thread.

 

With best wishes.

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

Nothing but the same old story -Paul Brady

 

 

says it all a little more eloquently than I can. 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Christopher_M

Hi Don,

Continuing to enjoy your writing here.

 

Best,

Chris

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by The Buster
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

'The Humped Chub'.

 

I'm not selling lurid DVDs, and this isn't a general exhortation for people to rush about humping chubs. Neither am I a lonely chub. 

 

It's essentially a meaningless quickie that might, briefly, lift the veils of sorrow  - like what your Mum does.

 

It's also the new name I'd like to propose to describe my brother's gloriously unfinished* hifi. 

 

It stands as an abandoned folly:  a hymn to absent mindedness and ambition. Whenever I see it, I wince. 

 

Like an excitable chap spelling 'banana', he knew how to start, but not necessarily how to finish.

 

The first thing he did was drop a few thousand pounds on a Roksan Pre/Power combination. One of those ones named after early Persian emperors, or princesses that Alexander the Great had ransacked.  I was, as you'd expect, manfully crying 'Naim! Naim!' from the sidelines but he's much bigger than I am.

 

To these pretty admirable amplifiers, he connected his very old, budget MA Bronze Something-or Others. They once won an award in a hifi magazine for being the best bookshelf speakers, available on discount, with bronze-coloured woofers, for about £250 to students or larcenous builders. Let's say they got this award about a decade ago. It doesn't really matter because both of them are blown. I haven't the heart to point this out to him. I'd gone croaky from shouting 'Naim'.

 

Current state of play is x£K of amp (I genuinely can't hear if they are any good but suspect so), connected to very blown £250 speakers. To front this, I think he normally uses a Dac built in the East of England in a town known for its dubious, web-footed scholarship. This, too, won an award from a renowned hifi magazine. For Best-Use-of-a-Sine-Wave-on-metal-casing. Three years on the trot, I believe.

 

It was at this point that I felt compelled, as the elder brother, to sit him down and explain painful things to him about system balance, basic human reproduction and the quickest way out of Stoke Penge.

 

Consequently, and almost immediately, he spent £300 on interconnects from a company that normally limits its commercial efforts to the building of reasonably-priced domestic toasters. They had gold things on each end and the cable was semi-translucent.   When I tut-tutted a bit he improved things hugely by dropping another £100 on a power lead into the DAC. It had blue bits on it. At this point I rather felt that he stopped listening to me, so I slunk out. He also uses Spotify Premium a lot. 

 

So there we stand. 320kbps through a retired work laptop, into a goodish but aged and budget dac, through many pounds of amp, into flatulent budget speakers. 

 

What do we call such a thing?

 

* I asked him why he'd abandoned the rest of his plans after the amp bit, and he cited childish things like getting onto the property market, getting married, honeymoons,etc etc. After some of these things were achieved, he started moaning about the cost of water-proofing flat roofs when dealing with truculent and delinquent Irish builders. So, frankly, weak, weak excuses. I'm pushing him towards a 272 front and and whatever speakers he likes the lies of. 

Thank you for not merely lifting a veil of sorrow this morning as I read your post, but catapulting me into side-splitting fits of laughter, the second of which sent a gulp of my morning coffee all over my keyboard. I think a small amount may have inadvertently seeped out of one of my nostrils, but c'est la vie.

 

Excellent writing - keep up the good work! 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

 

 My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). 

 

 

Arithmetic was obviously not you strong point at school.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Adam Meredith
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!

Don't fall so in love with your verbosity that you end up talking out your arse.

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...650#1566878606183650

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Lionel
Originally Posted by Huge:

Some people genuinely cannot hear the difference between a half way decent midi system (such as the Denon M39) and a full Naim system - it's sad but true.  They have so little feeling for music that they're missing out on so much, not just in reproduced music, but live performances as well.  But then again they've never had any relevant experience, so they don't know what it is they're missing.

How is it sad if they cannot hear any difference? They don't waste small fortunes on boxes. Equally they don't have any bragging rights here, but why would they want to?

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Ha. Yes Steve - guilty. I was poor at Maths. I only got a C- in spotting throwaway gags, too. 
 
 
Originally Posted by Steve J:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

 

 My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). 

 

 

Arithmetic was obviously not you strong point at school.

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Huge
Originally Posted by Lionel:
Originally Posted by Huge:

Some people genuinely cannot hear the difference between a half way decent midi system (such as the Denon M39) and a full Naim system - it's sad but true.  They have so little feeling for music that they're missing out on so much, not just in reproduced music, but live performances as well.  But then again they've never had any relevant experience, so they don't know what it is they're missing.

How is it sad if they cannot hear any difference?

...

Already answered.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Thank you, Adam. That's sage advice - both for me and the forum. I'll try never to speak through my arse. Thanks also for the link. 
 
Originally Posted by Adam Meredith:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!

Don't fall so in love with your verbosity that you end up talking out your arse.

 

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...650#1566878606183650

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by dayjay

I, for one, enjoyed your post, found it amusing and didn't find it offensive at all.  Hope to see more.

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by nigelb

Donkeyhaute,

 

Having read and enjoyed several of your posts I believe you are neither racist nor would you intentionally set out to cause offence.

 

I certainly hope you will continue to amuse (most of) us with your well written musings.

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Originally Posted by dayjay:

I, for one, enjoyed your post, found it amusing and didn't find it offensive at all.  Hope to see more.

Thank you. And thanks for posting. That was the intention.  We're still left with 'Octopus' however. 

 

My brother just emailed me today, very excitedly saying he's buying speakers over Christmas so we're back shortly to 'Mullet'. 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by George F
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

[...]

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

[...].

 

__________________

 

Reply:

 

 

Surely three eighths is one eighth less than half. I am three eighths Welsh. Being four eighths [the half] Norwegian am more Norwegian than anything else ...

 

Is Irish mathematics simply different?

 

ATB from George

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Thank you Nigel. I'm actually a git. 
 
 
Originally Posted by nigelb:

Donkeyhaute,

 

Having read and enjoyed several of your posts I believe you are neither racist nor would you intentionally set out to cause offence.

 

I certainly hope you will continue to amuse (most of) us with your well written musings.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by nigelb
Originally Posted by George Fredrik Fiske:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

[...]

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

[...].

 

__________________

 

Reply:

 

 

Surely three eighths is one eighth less than half. I am three eighths Welsh. Being four eighths [the half] Norwegian am more Norwegian than anything else ...

 

Is Irish mathematics simply different?

 

ATB from George

 

 

 

Donkeyhaute,

 

Although amusing, sometimes your humour is a little too subtle maybe.

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
Hello George. I've admired your posts - and outlook - for a while. Intrigued by mono and ESLs.
 
Yes it was a weak attempt to diffuse the Oirish thing with an arched-eyebrow reference to a stereotypically Oirish approach to fractions. 
 
It was throwaway, which to some looks callous and careless. But, as I say, I'm very nearly 20/43rds Irish myself, so have licence to be deprecatory. To an exact percentile.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by George Fredrik Fiske:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

[...]

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

[...].

 

__________________

 

Reply:

 

 

Surely three eighths is one eighth less than half. I am three eighths Welsh. Being four eighths [the half] Norwegian am more Norwegian than anything else ...

 

Is Irish mathematics simply different?

 

ATB from George

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by Donkeyhaute
I'll get flamed for cock jokes too, Nigel. Best stick to what I'm bad at.
 
 
Originally Posted by nigelb:
Originally Posted by George Fredrik Fiske:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

[...]

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

[...].

 

__________________

 

Reply:

 

 

Surely three eighths is one eighth less than half. I am three eighths Welsh. Being four eighths [the half] Norwegian am more Norwegian than anything else ...

 

Is Irish mathematics simply different?

 

ATB from George

 

 

 

Donkeyhaute,

 

Although amusing, sometimes your humour is a little too subtle maybe.

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 October 2015 by George F
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:
Hello George. I've admired your posts - and outlook - for a while. Intrigued by mono and ESLs.
 
Yes it was a weak attempt to diffuse the Oirish thing with an arched-eyebrow reference to a stereotypically Oirish approach to fractions. 
 
It was throwaway, which to some looks callous and careless. But, as I say, I'm very nearly 20/43rds Irish myself, so have licence to be deprecatory. To an exact percentile.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by George Fredrik Fiske:
Originally Posted by Donkeyhaute:

Hi, it's not offensive it all?!  

 

[...]

 

My brother himself as I am, (last checked) is 3/8ths Irish - so just over half). He also stole my socks once, so pretty delinquent himself. But that's Librans for you.

 

[...].

 

__________________

 

Reply:

 

 

Surely three eighths is one eighth less than half. I am three eighths Welsh. Being four eighths [the half] Norwegian am more Norwegian than anything else ...

 

Is Irish mathematics simply different?

 

ATB from George

 

 

 

 

You cruel man! You have underlined the fact the Norwegians cannot get an Anglophone subtle joke. For Norwegians everything is precise and black and white!

 

So you have got me banged to rights there!

 

Mind you there a is form of Norwegian humour that would soon get me banned [form the Forum] if I were to relay them, mainly, but not exclusively, about Swedes! And yes we are not allowed to be racist in public these days ... Apparently ...

 

This is self-deprecatory post ...

 

Best wishes from George