upgrade uniti to superuniti

Posted by: balma01 on 07 November 2015

Hi, my system is composed by a uniti (first model), n-sats and n-sub. I'm thinking to upgrade to a superuniti (I do not use the cd anymore).

Do you think that  the audio quality will be much improved ?

 

Posted on: 07 November 2015 by Pev

I did exactly that three years ago and am still very happy - it was a big improvement! Go and listen for yourself, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Posted on: 07 November 2015 by ChrisH

I made the same move, like Pev, and was very happy with the improvement.

Only thing I would mention is that then this made me curious for what moving up the Naim ladder would do for me.

I kept the SU for a year and then moved on to a Supernait 2 / NDX.

If you think you may eventually want to move to separates, there might be a different way you could go which will mean you don't lose so much money in the upgrades.

For example you could add an amp or a streamer toyour Uniti in the interim period, making it an easier step to upgrade to say a SN2/NDX or 272/250.

 

It all depends where you think you would like to end up.

If will have no desire to move further up the Naim ladder, the SU is the best Naim all in one you can get!

 

Hope this helps.

Posted on: 07 November 2015 by Faux75
I ended up returning to the Uniti (Original Model) due to its simplicity after playing with various upgrades. I rarely use the CD player but it is useful and the Uniti powers my Stageline which the superuniti doesn't do.
If I do decide to go down the upgrade path again I will keep the Uniti as a source.
You would definitely hear the difference between the Uniti and it's grown up butcher brother. I'm not sure if I prefer the sound though, vinyl sounds better through my Uniti (to my ears).
Posted on: 07 November 2015 by hungryhalibut

Before buying a SuperUniti I tried the Uniti2, and thought the SU was significantly better. Those little Sats would really benefit from the extra power of the SU. If you think you will upgrade no further, the SU is a very good place to go. On the other hand, if you think you may move to separates, Chis suggests a couple of very good options. 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by balma01

Thanks.

If it will be not too much expensive I will change my uniti to a superuniti. I do not want to go t separates. Does somebody know if the SU will be 'refreshed' by a new edition?

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by Kiwi cat

I went  fron Uniti to Superuniti and was and am delighted with it. I suspect the main upgrades or " improvements" to the Superuniti will be firmware, and that is easily upgraded. You will also get the Bluetooth option with a current model  Superuniti. As an all in one solution it is hard to beat.

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks

Can someone describe the added benefits of moving up to the SU from U2? I currently have a U2 but have been thinking about a SN2/NDX combo. However one of the reasons I went with a U2 from a XS 2 was to get away from upgrades. I could see that was going to an expensive road to go down. I don't use the CD player on the U2 so maybe the SU is something to consider. 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by ChrisSU
Originally Posted by spurrier sucks:

Can someone describe the added benefits of moving up to the SU from U2? I currently have a U2 but have been thinking about a SN2/NDX combo. However one of the reasons I went with a U2 from a XS 2 was to get away from upgrades. I could see that was going to an expensive road to go down. I don't use the CD player on the U2 so maybe the SU is something to consider. 

That worked well, then!!

 

I prefer the SU to the Uniti, I think it's partly to do with that meaty 80w power amp they've squeezed in there. I think Naim summed it up quite well with their description, "particularly well-suited for large rooms and those who like to play their music just that little bit louder". It has more power, without losing refinement. NDX/Supernait is in a different league, though! 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks
Foolish on my part thinking I wouldn't want to upgrade.

How's the 200 added to your SU affect the sound? Adding a 200 the U2 may be an option but I'm guessing that doesn't help the pre amp or streamer in the U2.
Posted on: 09 November 2015 by ChrisSU
Originally Posted by spurrier sucks:
Foolish on my part thinking I wouldn't want to upgrade.

How's the 200 added to your SU affect the sound? Adding a 200 the U2 may be an option but I'm guessing that doesn't help the pre amp or streamer in the U2.

The 200DR has a much cleaner sound than the SU power amp, with a lower noise floor. As you might expect from the slightly lower power (70W instead of 80) it's not quite as 'meaty' as the SU on its own, but then, I have an N-Sub to compensate from that. My plan is to upgrade the SU next, so the 200 was just phase one in that process, but certainly a worthwhile improvement in its own right, as I'm sure it would be on a Uniti 2.   

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks
Are you getting a 272?
Posted on: 09 November 2015 by ChrisSU
Originally Posted by spurrier sucks:
Are you getting a 272?

No, I did consider it, but I thought the NDX was considerably better, so I decided on NDX/282/200. My limit is 3 boxes - if you wanted to limit it to just 2, I would shortlist NDX/Supernait and 272/200 or 250. 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks
Do you know if the 272 has HTBP? I have my stereo and HT together. If it does not then I know which way to go.
Posted on: 09 November 2015 by ChrisSU

Sorry, no idea what HTBP is!?

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by sjbabbey

I'm assuming HTBP refers to AV bypass in which case I can't see it mentioned in the product specs on Naim's site. Perhaps one of our 272 owners can confirm either way.

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks
That's right av bypass. I don't see it mentioned either so was unsure but assume that it does not have. Hopefully someone can confirm.
Posted on: 09 November 2015 by ChrisSU

I'm pretty sure the 272 has this, but it's not a feature I use, so best to confirm that it'll do exactly what you want from someone who knows about it. 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by hungryhalibut

No idea! I certainly can't find it in the manual, but I wouldn't know an AV bypass if I was driving down it. 

Posted on: 09 November 2015 by spurrier sucks
After a quick google search it does appear that the 272 does have av bypass.
Posted on: 09 November 2015 by RikkieB

Yet is does! See page 16 in the manual (section 4.3.11) of the NAC-N 172 XS, NAC-N 272. I use it myself in HT. Works like a charm