LP12 sound quality

I was thinking that too. Good news is Kore is cheaper (£750 vs approx £1000)

£1000? Is that the cost of the Lingo new? The Mose cost me less than half that if I recall correctly. I think the cost for new Linn Power Supplies is over the top, probably paying a lot for the casing, which admittedly is to a decent standard of finish.

£1200 actually! Mind you a bargain compared to Naim power supplies

The Lingo will certainly improve bass line reproduction - if memory serves correctly it will also bring out deeper notes. ( a favourite dealer dem album in the early 90's was Alpha Blondie ' Jerusalem' - which amply demonstrated the upgrade from the Valhalla psu - itself somewhat more capable than the 'Basik'

psu in the new, entry-level, LP12. But that's not all. In comparison, the Valhalla gave a rather 'dirty' musical reproduction, and on hearing a Lingo LP 12 for the first time it's striking how more 'direct' it sounds. A common description reviewers used to try to describe what they heard was 'inky black silences'. The deck sounds clearer, but without an appreciable change in tone or brightness. The first Lingo's came out in the 90's (they benefit from a re-cap) and were pre - Cirkus bearing and also most of the sub chassis mods that Linn brought out. So, the LP 12 was still relatively undeveloped compared to this years top model.

I listened to the RP10 vs the Majik at the dealers, though the same setup as I have at home. I preferred the style of the LP12 though I would not say one was better than the other. The RP was definitely more detailed but in a clinical sort of way (A bit like digital) I want vinyl to provide a more relaxing contrast to difital on my 272 and the LP12 seemed to provide more of that.

glad its sorted. after my LP12 rebuild it reckon it took about 8 weeks for it to really start singing. I left the motor running to bed the new bearing in on 45 rpm for two days.

Really interesting - once I had the Xerxes - which is considerably more dynamic but less warm than the LP12 - I started to wish for a more analogue presentation from CD - fortunately I found an excellent CDS3.  Job done - well there are the speakers - different issue!!!

Not saying I don't like the "digital" sound, I do. It is just nice to have a contrasting source as well. Afterall there seems little point in spending thousands on 2 sources to have them sound the same. Would be better off selling my vinyl and putting the money into HD downloads

Not this one I would like to point out!!!! Set up is key.

At it's price point the RP10 is very good I would add.

KR

Peter

I have had a joyful relationship with my LP12/Valhalla/Cirkus/Ittok LVII since 1990 but no longer live anywhere close to a dealer who can properly set up an LP12.  That's not to say I don't live close to a Linn dealer  but that's another story...  The best next step for me was to Lingo the Sondek but given that my local Linn dealer is utterly clueless and I had some doubts about how well my Sondek has aged, given that it has made a couple of long journeys by sea during our time together.  I thought maybe the thing to do was start again with a new LP12 Majik and upgrade from there?  As a former Rega owner I gave the RP10 a listen and, fitted with the same Dynavector MC cartridge, it was streets ahead of the LP12.  Rega's Apheta 2 only increases that gap and for me it was a very simple decision to sell the Sondek and buy a new RP10.  If you don't have limitless cash or a desire to perpetually upgrade, it's a wonderful turntable.  Trust me, it's definitely worth a listen...!

Peter,

Said dealer was most definitely not you but in any event I would not name.

BB - I've only heard the RP10 once but on the strength of that one listen alone I have to say that had it been available when I bought my Roksan it MAY have been a different outcome.  It's hugely impressive to these ears.

There is a risk here that i'm seen as somewhat - perhaps almost pathologically anti the LP12.  I'm not - I've experienced many a great listening session with one on the front of the system - if the system is well set up great music will shine through.   But to my ears other TTs have always offered a more rewarding and particularly dynamic listen.  This is particularly the case now with there being such a range of great TTs out there to choose from.  And yes Digital sources are equally good these days. - well almost

I beg your pardon? Cough, cough.

Best regards, FT

Good morning Mr Foot tapper!!!

So after a week of having the LP12 back, I am really enjoying the sound from it after the new set up.  There is more punchy bass and wider soundstage.

However 1st upgrade has been purchased this week in time for xmas. I bought a Lingo 1 from Cymbiosis which should arrive today and will get Loud and clear to fit it some time this month.

Next is to change the arm but this can wait a few months.

Thank you all for your help and guidance on this subject.

Excellent News Simon.

I have just placed an order for a Majik with Radikal PS so looking forward to seeing what the upgraded PS can do.

Good stuff Simon - all TTs benefit from a PSU upgrade.

Don't get me wrong, as a Rega dealer keeping the RP10 I think their decks are fantastic and as a plug an play endpoint TT the RP10 is extremely good and may well be a better bet if adequate LP12 set-up is unavailable. It's a problem when attention to detail and/or experience is lacking for sure.

KR

Peter