Sibilance on BBC HD radio

Posted by: AndyL on 18 November 2015

High sibilance on BBC Radio 2 HD stream, don't listen to it much at home but it's putting me off; BBC Radio 4 HD not so bad - is it just to be expected?

 

ATB

Andy

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by Mike-B

Internet radio tends to carry a bit more HF energy compared to FM. I'm listening to R2 HLS at mo & switching between it & the same prog from my NAT-05 it is a bit brighter.

I suspect, as with all FM radio's, this is the need for rolling off output before 15kHz to avoid a 19kHz pilot tone, some FM tuners have little output above 10kHz.

That said sibilance is generally accepted as between 5kHz & 8kHz,  so that blows my theory out the window 

My system NDX/SN does not have anything like sibilance on streaming, yes its brighter in HF & has a little more "sszz" in cymbals, but nothing I would be offended by & nothing with the other sibilance prone instruments & voices.

 

Have you thought about this being a speaker or speaker/amp matching issue,  not saying it is other than keep it in mind.

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by AndyL

Thanks Mike - no sibilance issues from other internet radio channels and NAS streaming, all sounds great so I wouldn't have thought so - could it be to do with my wireless connectivity to the SU? 

 

ATB

Andy

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by AndyL:

Thanks Mike - no sibilance issues from other internet radio channels and NAS streaming, all sounds great so I wouldn't have thought so - could it be to do with my wireless connectivity to the SU? 

Ahhhh  !!!!!     wireless .........  the sporn of the devil !!!

 

Hi Andy,,  I doubt it,  especially if other streaming & NAS replay is wireless & sibilance free, internet radio is a light load compared to the higher density NAS feeds.

Since I first posted on this I've been listening more closely to BBC HLS & other iRadio stations & I do note there is more emphasis in the 5-8kHz sstzzy sibilance region.  However with my speakers its not aggressive or really that noticeable.

I've noticed its worse on R-1 (but never normally go to that hell hole),  R-2 I hear it - or I hear what you mean,  R-3 & R-4 I don't think I hear it.  I also don't hear it on Linn Jazz (MP3) or Radio Paradise (AAC) (both 44.1kHz & 320kbs)

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by AndyL

Thanks Mike - my experience with those stations matches yours

 

must do something about wireless, I don't get drop outs but I'd like to compare, as some here claim SQ improvement

 

ATB

Andy

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by AndyL

Thought I'd also mention it's spoken word sibilance that's really annoying me

Posted on: 18 November 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by AndyL:

Thought I'd also mention it's spoken word sibilance that's really annoying me

Its also spoken voice that I picked up on.  

 

Re wired v wireless, yes its worth it for better SQ, but might not fix the sstzz problem,  I'm all wired.