No surprise, but NACA5 is good
Posted by: Solid Air on 23 November 2015
We moved house recently (around the corner), and the new lounge layout means I no longer need huge runs of speaker cable. So I took out the Van Damme Blue 2.5mm I had before, and bought some NACA5 instead. And guess what? It seems to make a teeny difference. Whether that difference justifies a per square metre price five times higher is pretty debatable. It really is a small difference. But it's done, and I'm happy with it.
Good stuff, and it's worth remembering notable different lengths of speaker cable will sound subtly different as well
Simon
I've had my NACA5 since the late '90's and paid less than about £100 for ten metres with Naim plugs fitted. As I recall, Linn K20 cable (similar but not the same) cost about a couple of pounds per metre less.
Today, Linn charges £5 per metre for K20 and Naim £30 per metre for NACA5.
So something somewhere has changed. But not the cables.
I've had my NACA5 since the late '90's and paid less than about £100 for ten metres with Naim plugs fitted. As I recall, Linn K20 cable (similar but not the same) cost about a couple of pounds per metre less.
Today, Linn charges £5 per metre for K20 and Naim £30 per metre for NACA5.
So something somewhere has changed. But not the cables.
Same here, purchased 2x 4mtr lengths in the 90s (still in use today) and the cable was reasonably priced. Today's price of NACA5 takes the piss and is beyond inflation.
When I was at university you could get beer for 32p a pint......
Good point. The Union bar charged about 90p a pint in 1989.
I've found one of my old Naim price lists for April 2001.
NACA5 - £6.60/m
By September 2002 it had gone up by 5p/m
Good find John, so in 2002 it was £6.65 per mtr, 13 years later £30 wow
When I was at university you could get beer for 32p a pint......
In 1973 a pint of Watney's Bitter was 10p a pint in the medical school bar, subsidised by Watney's. Fuller's was 15p a pint.
Is that right??? That about 450% price rise in 13 years.... perhaps it would be best to invest NACA5 than premiere London properties.
In the late 70's the college watering hole we used to frequent had Labatts Blue for 0.65 apiece or 2 for $1. So the thing to do was team up with a buddy and alternate rounds. For $5 a night some serious damage would ensue...
Today it would cost that much to just look at 1 of them.
I used to like that NACA5 was such a reasonably priced product. I did not know that was no longer the case.
It would be interesting to see a graph of the price rise of NACA5 over the years. I have a feeling the really big annual rises have come over the last 5 years.
On a positive note I have sold a couple of pairs of NACA5 on fleabay and each time realised more than I paid for them, and they weren't that old.
Will be interesting to see whether Super Lumina speaker cable shows the same price trend with time, but I don't see it happening. Speculators to the contrary might want to stock up now.
Maybe product line and brand success allow the prices to go higher and higher for NAC A5 - people will still buy it.
When I was totally new to Naim I did just buy NAC A5 as part of the package and they were off the giant reel which most retailers probably stock. The ends were properly terminated by the retailer, and it worked a bit better than the QED Silver that they replaced.
Overseas locations seem to benefit from Tellurium Q Black being cheaper than NAC A5 - on this forum and others it was Americans or Canadians who remarked on this.
Anyway, Tellurium Q Black is the new NAC A5.
I guess NACA5 is not the new wonder ethernet cable, so would be nice if this thread was moved over to the HiFi Corner
As NAIM enforce a price rise every year (8 ish % generally) on the majority of products then unless SL is excluded, which it might for a couple of rounds then SL will jump by huge steps each year.
With inflation / deflation oscillating around 0% and the strongish pound, it will be interesting if Naim increase prices this year... It certainly will look strange if its sizeable, especially in the more more mainstream part of the portfolio .. Might be there are selective price cuts.. Seems to be becoming fashionable elsewhere. Perhaps Naim might need some help in their procurement team...
Simon
Naim to slash prices for Black Friday? Works for me.
While general inflation has been low, I believe copper prices have gone up significantly over the last ten or 12 years.
However, businesses tend to make margin from relatively price insensitive products, and NACA5 is in that category - essentially a captive audience. I'll bet there's not much margin on a basic Nait or Unitiqute, for example, as they're in more price sensitive segments and entry points for the Naim brand.
I've had my NACA5 since the late '90's and paid less than about £100 for ten metres with Naim plugs fitted. As I recall, Linn K20 cable (similar but not the same) cost about a couple of pounds per metre less.
Today, Linn charges £5 per metre for K20 and Naim £30 per metre for NACA5.
So something somewhere has changed. But not the cables.