Major Labels to Offer Hi Res in 2012

Waz.

Let's hope that both gents are right.

Best wishes,

Peter

Ditto.

Dave

Let's hope they get their price scoping right as well. I'll pay a premium price for a premium product but a brace of 24Bit unpolishable turds will inevitably lead to the incorrect conclusion that there is no market. Like they priced vinyl out of the market in the 80s, which is not analogous but shows what is possible.

Still, it never hurts to hope. So I will.

Interesting news. On hdtracks, there have been interesting releases of hi-res music from Deutsche Grammophon, Geffen, ECM during the past months. Perhaps there is more to come also from other labels.

But let's hope that music industry will not just re-pack their heavily compressed music into 24 bit containers. Otherwise "24 bit" would be nothing more than a marketing fad. 

KR

Jochen

That's an easy one Tog.

Listen to the Steve Hoffman and Kevin Gray remasterings of the Blue Notes.

To my ears, virtually nothing worse than RVG Remasters.

I kick myself when I get myself unintentionally another RvG, when it wasn't mentioned in the CD description.

Actually, there is quite a bit of information in there, tonally speaking, that would shine in hi-res. Don't confuse limited dynamic range (from compression) with limited bandwidth or bit-depth.

One of our retailers brought by Blood Sugar Sex Magic on Compact Disc at a recent consumer show, ripped it to the UnitiServe, and we played it out via the NDX (early prototype, with no external power supply)–I was rather surprised how much information was actually in there, even at Red Book quality....

I wouldn't be surprised if this is what's coming down the pike (or a modified version with baseline hi-res support)

CMX file format

I stand corrected although the RVGs are significantly better than the originals - how much of the Blue Note catalogue has been re-remastered by Hoffamn and Gray - hoping the Freddie Hubbard collection.

Tog

Steve Hoffman& Kevin Gray 's recent remasters are done on SACD on the Analogue Productions label found here:

http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=search&LabelID=4082

Freddie Hubbard in series 2:  Hub Tones and Hub Cap

Also extremely good remasters by Alan Yoshida on Audio Wave XRCD:

http://www.audiowavemusic.com/

Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame

Also quite good remasters of many Blue Note records were done by Ron McMasters in the 80's on the BlueNote label from Capitol Records

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ron+McMaster#q=blue+note&t=&p=1

Mostly out-of-print but can be found second hand (e.g. via discogs)

Freddie Hubbard: Open Sesame Plus 2; Hub Tones; The Best of Freddie Hubbard; Here To Stay

It is a matter of taste but I personally avoid RvG remasters, esp. the late ones.

Overview of Freddie Hubbard's discography (lead and side man):

(from: http://www.danmillerjazz.com/hubbard.html 

Freddie Hubbard Blue Note Discography

BN 4040 Freddie Hubbard--Open Sesame (June 19, 1960)
BN 4041 Tina Brooks--True Blue (June 25, 1960)
BN 4056 Freddie Hubbard--Goin' Up (November 6, 1960)
BN 4058 Hank Mobley--Roll Call (November 13, 1960)
BN 4059 Kenny Drew--Undercurrent (December 11, 1960)
BN 4067 Jackie McLean--Bluesnik (January 8, 1961)
BN 4073 Freddie Hubbard--Hub Cap (April 9, 1961)
BN 4077 Dexter Gordon--Doin' Alright (May 6, 1961)
BN 4085 Freddie Hubbard--Ready For Freddie (August 21, 1961)
BN 4090 Art Blakey--Mosaic (October 2, 1961)
BN 4104 Art Blakey--Buhiana's Delight (November 28 & December 18, 1961)
BN 4109 Herbie Hancock--Takin' Off (May 28, 1962)
BN 4115 Freddie Hubbard--Hub Tones (October 10, 1962)
BN 4135 Freddie Hubbard--Here To Stay (December 27, 1962)
BN 4163 Eric Dolphy--Out To Lunch (February 25, 1964)
BN 4170 Art Blakey--Free For All (February 10, 1964)
BN 4172 Freddie Hubbard--Breaking Point (May 7, 1964)
BN 4175 Herbie Hancock--Empyrian Isles (June 17, 1964)
BN 4186 Hank Mobley--Turnaround (February 5, 1965)
BN 4194 Wayne Shorter--Speak No Evil (February 24, 1965)
BN 4195 Herbie Hancock--Maiden Voyage (May 17, 1965)
BN 4196 Freddie Hubbard--Blue Spirits (February 19 & 26, 1965)
BN 4198 Bobby Hutcherson--Dialogue (April 3, 1965)
BN 4206 Sam Rivers--Contours (May 21, 1965)
BN 4207 Freddie Hubbard--Night of the Cookers Vol.1 (April 10, 1965)
BN 4208 Freddie Hubbard--Night of the Cookers Vol.2 (April 9, 1965)
BN 4213 Bobby Hutcherson--Components (June 10, 1965)
BN 4217 Andrew Hill--Compulsion (October 3, 1965)
BN 4219 Wayne Shorter--All Seeing Eye (October 15, 1965)
BN 4252 Duke Pearson--Sweet Honey Bee (December 7, 1966)
BN 4254 Lou Donaldson--Lush Life (January 20, 1967)
BN 4267 Duke Pearson--The Right Touch (September 13, 1967)
BN 4435 Hank Mobley--Straight No Filter (February 4, 1965)
BN 459H2 Andrew Hill--One For One (February 10, 1965)
BN 3054 Wayne Shorter--Soothsayer (March 4, 1965)
BN 3055 Dexter Gordon--Clubhouse (May 27, 1965)
BN 8178 Bobby Hutcherson--Spiral (April 3, 1965)
BN 84451 Art Blakey--3 Blind Mice Vol.1 (March 1962)
BN 84452 Art Blakey--3 Blind Mice Vol.2 (March 1962 & April 1961)

 

 

Freddie Hubbard Non-Blue Note Recordings of the 1960's

Wes Montgomery--The Montgomery Brothers And Five Others (December 30, 1957--Pacific Jazz 1240)
John Coltrane--The Believer (December 26, 1958--Prestige 7292)
John Coltrane--Stardust (December 26, 1958--Prestige 7353)
Paul Chambers--Go (February 2-3, 1959--Vee Jay 1014)
Slide Hampton--Slide! (Late 1959--Strand 1006)
Slide Hampton--Sister Salvation (February 15, 1960--Atlantic 1339)
Eric Dolphy--Quintet (April 1, 1960--New Jazz NJ 8236)
Charli Persip--Charles Persip and the Jazz Statesmen (April 2, 1960--Bethlehem 3019)
J.J. Johnson--J.J. Incorporated (August 1 & 3, 1960--Columbia 36808)
Walter Benton--Out of This World (September 19, 1960--Jazz Land 28)
Randy Weston--Uhuru Afrika (November 17 & 18, 1960--Roulette SR 65001)
Curtis Fuller--Boss of Soul Stream Trombone (December 1960--Warwick 2038)
Ornette Coleman--Free Jazz (December 21, 1960--Atlantic 1364)
Oliver Nelson--Blues and the Abstract Truth (February 23, 1961--Impulse A-5)
Quincy Jones--The Great Wide World of Quincy Jones: Live! (March 10, 1961--Mercury 60221)
Jimmy Heath--The Quota (April 14 & 20, 1961--Riverside RLP 372)
John Coltrane--Ole (May 25, 1961--Atlantic 1373)
Duke Pearson--Dedication! (August 2, 1961--Prestige 7729)
Wayne Shorter--Wayning Moments (November 2 & 6, 1961--Vee Jay 3029)
Curtis Fuller--Soul Trombone (November 15-17, 1961--Impulse A-13)
Quincy Jones--The Quintessence (December 18, 1961--Impulse A-11)
Jimmy Heath--Triple Threat (January 4 & 17, 1962--Riverside 9400)
Benny Golson--Pop + Jazz = Swing (April 1962--Audio Fidelity AFSD 5978)
Slide Hampton--Drum Suite (April 5, 19 & 18, 1962--Epic)
Curtis Fuller--Cabin In The Sky (April 24-25, 1962--Impulse A-22)
Freddie Hubbard--Artistry of Freddie Hubbard (July 2, 1962--Impulse AS-27)
Bill Evans--Interplay (July 16, 1962--Riverside RLP 9445)
Art Blakey--Caravan (October 23, 1962--Riverside RLP 9438)
Freddie Hubbard--The Body and Soul (March 8 & 11 & May 2, 1963--Impulse AS-38)
Art Blakey--Ugetsu (June 16, 1963--Riverside RLP 9464)
Ronnie Matthews--Doin' The Thang (December 17, 1963--Prestige 7303)
Art Blakey--Golden Boy (1963--Colpix 478)
Art Blakey--Kyoto (February, 20 1964--Riverside RLP 9493)
Quincy Jones--Soundtrack: The Pawnbroker (February 20, 1965--Mercury 21011)
Art Blakey--Soul Finger (May 12-13, 1965--Limelight 82018)
John Coltrane--Ascension (June 28, 1965--Impulse A-95)
Max Roach--Drums Unlimited (October 14 & 20, 1965 & April 20, 1966--Atlantic 1467)
Sonny Rollins--East Broadway Rundown (May 9, 1966--Impulse 9121)
Freddie Hubbard--Backlash (October 19 & 24, 1966--Atlantic 1477)
Booker Ervin--Booker & Brass (September 12-14, 1967--Pacific Jazz 20127)
Freddie Hubbard--High Pressure Blues (November 13, 1967 & January 10, 1968--Atlantic 1501)
Freddie Hubbard--Soul Experiment (December 11 & 13, 1968 & January 21, 1969--Atlantic 1526)
Freddie Hubbard--Black Angel (May 16, 1969--Atlantic 1549)
Quincy Jones--Walking In Space (June 18-19, 1969--A&M 93023)
George Benson--The Other Side of Abbey Road (Oct 22-Nov 5, 1969--A&M 3028)
Freddie Hubbard--The Hub of Hubbard (December 9, 1969--MPS 726)

Two more Freddie Hubbards done by Steve Hoffman from the Impulse label are also found on SACD's from Analogue Production http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?start=1&do=search&group=269

The Artistry Of Freddie Hubbard

The Body & The Soul

Now I will quit!

Aleg - you old jazz cat

that makes two Freddie Hubbard fans .... any more?

Tog

.. I'm an old jazz cat too .. came across  this the other day - you might like it - Wynton Marsalis rehearsing at home with his quintet .. very low res but still splendid:

http://www.facebook.com/video/...?v=10150243238461077

There's some other nice clips on his facebook page. I wonder if we'll ever get gigs streamed live?

So many, .. (sigh)

Much depending on the mood:

• Ben Webster (nearly all of them great)
• Art Blakey (you must listen to 'Drums around the Corner' (1999 Connoisseur Series Capitol / Blue Note))
• Hank Mobley
• Sonny Clark
• Sonny Rollins
• Sonny Stitt
• Lee Morgan
• Tina Brooks
• Stanley Turrentine
• Grant Green (mostly the early ones)
• Donald Byrd
• Enrico Rava (this is definitely one you must hear: Duo en Noir; Plays Miles Davis; Volver; ...) he is a contemporary artist but (or must I say and) exceptional;
• Kenny Dorham (esp. 'Quiet Kenny')

and of course the big boys:

• Thelonious Monk
• Charles Mingus
• John Coltrane (early works are easiest)
• Miles Davis (again early works are most listenable)

See if you can still find CD's from the Blue Note Connoisseur CD Series, these are all superb performances

• BN Connoisseur Series 01 1994-1999
• BN Connoisseur Series 02 2000-2005
• BN Connoisseur Series 03 2006-2008

I could go on and on and on ...

There is such a lot of great music in those vaults.

-

aleg

Thanks for sharing this info.

Lets hope they get it right.

Andy

Hi Aleg -

The early BN Connoisseur series done by Larry Walsh are uniformly excellent.   I have about a dozen, including Ready for Freddie.  Beyond that, I thought the latter McMaster's (both Connoisseur and regular editions) are still pretty darn good. 

Given the choice, I would have to agree with you that these earlier releases sound better/smoother than the later RVG releases, which sound brighter/louder and more modern/digital to me.

Hard to generalize, but it does seem that BN has simply followed the rest of industry on dynamic compression, and so generally speaking, earlier is better.  Am sure there must be exceptions though.

Hook

I have to agree with Aleg, many of the RVGs are unbelievably bad; the only excuse could be that poor Rudy has lost his hearing.  Interestingly, often the initial Japanese releases are the worst offenders; some of the RVGs were redone for American release to good effect.  My favorite Blue Note CDs are the early 90s Japanese Toshiba-EMI releases.  They sound closer to the original vinyl than the recent Steve Hoffman, Music Matters, and XRCDs, IMHO, although these new versions, especially on 45 RPM vinyl, do have their virtues.

Surely the main merit in hi-res is to issue current masters as Linn do, rather than rehash ancient tape.

...if you consider recent hi-res releases your cup of tea–"audiophile" releases can often be long on poof and short on fun.

I'm afraid I don't really care about 'audiophile' releases.

But Mackerras' Mozart Requiem and  Mozart Symphonies on LinnRecords are great, wonderful experiences, as is the Dunedin Mathew Passion on the same label. 

What more could you want of a recording than the masters themselves?