Priceless. Give them a medal.

Quite the fall!

Nice to see that PC madness is not everywhere!

So. The U.S marines give a good kicking to an outnumber, poorly trained adversary with impunity.

Seem familiar?

I thought the newspaper report was funny and it's hard to feel very sorry for this bloke, or to imagine that the marines were ever very likely to do anything else. But I can't really join in the general gloating simply because I think actually watching another human being being beaten as brutally as this would be sickening. It seems strange to me that Tony L for one seems to think he would enjoy watching such a thing.

Tony,

Two broken arms, a broken ankle, a broken leg, missing teeth, broken ribs, a broken nose and a broken jaw, represents a prolonged, brutal and bloody beating. You'd actually like to watch such a thing?

I think its called "rough justice"

Hopefully the thief/thug has learned his lesson - but he should still be tried and (if found guilty) sent to prison.

I doubt if the marines would ever succeed at accurate reconnaisance/reporting !..

Cheers

Don

A good friend of mine, even more mild mannered than I'll ever be, once did about that much damage to a guy in under five seconds. The doctor's report said that the 'victim' appeared to have been attacked by a group of men armed with baseball bats. This 'victim' had grabbed my friend's wife from behind in a bar, forced her to the ground, and simulated having sex with her. I saw the resultant beating, and thought to myself, "Well done, Dave."

I don't watch needless violence anymore. I hate boxing, can barely watch any war films, don't eat meat etc, etc. But there are times when an attacker just needs taking out, and I reckon that robber suffered about five seconds of 'sustained' beating from highly trained killers. He was very lucky.

Tony

Tony,

I certainly don't blame your friend for what he did; like I said, it's so predictable that the marines would act that way that I don't particularly blame them either. And I suppose you may be right that three guys like that could inflict that much damage quite quickly. The idea of wanting to watch is still foreign to me though. But there you go.

That would be better.

So, it seems that for some of you the exact value of a laptop of unknown brand is: two human arms, a human ankle, a human leg, some human teeth, some human ribs, a human nose and a human jaw.

I hope that money will still exist for long, and no time for swaps will come along.

M.

Duggan seems to make a habit of being at the wrong place, wrong time.

He was stabbed in the back by another shoplifter called Tracey Attaway. What's the chance of that happening, although this time the shoplifter didn't "Fall off the kerb"

http://chronicle.augusta.com/n...suspect-stabs-marine

It had nothing to do with the laptop. The theiving toerag, emboldened by the fear that he had instilled in the shop staff then stabbed one of the people trying to do their civic duty in apprehending him.

The fact that he was stupid enough to stab one of the marines is why he got hit, not because he stole.

Bit like the idiots that get shot by police whilst waving around imitation firearms. If you haven't got the sense to do as you're instructed when a crowd of people, dressed as Police, driving Police cars shout "Armed Police, drop the weapon!" you shouldn't be surprised when you get shot.

The injuries, whilst no doubt painful, don't appear to have been life threatening, and any one of the Marines would have been more than capable of dealing a fatal blow. One could even argue the case that they showed restraint in incapacitating the attacker, rather than dealing a fatal blow.

John

You beat me to this point John.   Marines are trained to kill, not apprehend.  The criminal was, in a sense...lucky.

Still, would not be shocked to read someday that the criminal is suing the Marines (claiming he used the knife in self-defense).

Hook

Legally, I would have thought the question was whether they used more force than was necessary to subdue him, which they pretty obviously did. So if he did want to sue, I think he might have a case.

I think it's part of the very essence of the law that it will often deliver unpopular judgements. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it.

Yes, "reasonable force" = ok

1 ruthless villain has already stabbed 1 marine after failing to surrender.

3 marines, aware they might be stabbed, use reasonable force to arrest said villain.

Dead easy to judge "reasonable" from the comfort of an armchair.

I recon, they used reasonable force under the circumstances.

If the villain brings an action against the marines, I only hope he doesn't "slip" down the steps on the way into court or out of court.

Meanwhile, I assume the villain will face charges of armed robbery, and attempted murder, and i assume he will be found guilty and sent to prison - hopefully one where there are no "kerbs" or ex-marines.

Cheers

Don

I was actually sitting at the kitchen table at the time Don.

I've said already that it would probably be unrealistic to expect the marines to behave any differently, but two broken arms, a broken ankle, a broken leg, broken ribs, missing teeth,a broken jaw and a broken nose are not the result of three trained individuals using reasonable force to apprehend one man, even when he was armed with a knife. Even those who'd like to give them a medal can see that. It's not a question of whether you think they were justified and it's not a question of whether you or I would have done the same thing in their place.

But did it really happen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics...ry/stabbedmarine.asp

IMV the marines used reasonable force.

If the villain considers the marines used excessive force and has evidence to substantiate his opinion, i'm sure he will sue - as he is entitled so to do.

I would imagine the shop keeper would press for armed robbery charges and I imagine the marines would press for attempted murder - especially the one who was stabbed.

cheers

Don

I suspect you may be misusing the technical term 'reasonable force'. 

Anyway, as it seems to be a myth, we can all stop arguing about it.