Burning in burnt cable! Tellurium q

There are some plausible explanations about cable break-in on the Cardas web site.

An interesting read, thanks for sharing

feeling_zen posted:

@Mike-B, are you going to be able to take measurements to prove or disprove the run-in disc changes the electrical properties of the cable? If so, what and how?

Sorry to be a pedant about this.

No,  of course not,  I'm just a curious sceptic.  If I hear something (or not) I'll say so,  just like all the other post on this forum.  But pleased be assured I will not be using phases like amazing night & day changes. 

Are you not even going to say that it sounded broken before, Mike?

What in interesting debate... Surely that's what forums are for?

I started the thread as I too was a sceptic to the idea of cable burn in, after all surely the cable company send out their stuff ready to use! Not actually the case.

im sure that different manufactures cables require lesser burning in therefore it's less noticible but all I can base my comments on is my own experience and I can catagorically say even used TQ cables improve after initial installation, FACT.

the idea of spending money on a burn in CD also seemed ludicrous to me except when the cable/s sound pants and you want to get them to the performance your expecting I think £17 is extremely good value to speed up that process. I've yet to try the refresh track but I've no doubt that it will become a monthly exercise, after all what's to loose?

doing a quick search the following manufactures all have a section on burn in:

cardas, chord, TelluriumQ, MIT, etc... They must all be crazy too as many of them are not selling a solution to the burn in, just letting their customers know that it exists and to expect it.

If the workout disk makes a difference, treat with caution ... it might make things worse!

Adam Zielinski posted:

I suggest you actually do get hold of a TelluriumQ disc and test it, ..............................
My post / comment was refering to the 3rd track of that disc, which is called 'System refresh' (or something along those lines).

You've got to remember the disc is only £20, what else could you get for that pric that would make any difference to your system? I think it's a bargain especially for those of use wanting to speed up the burn in process.

I bought the TQ CD a few days after getting anxious with a new Black Diamond interconnect , I left it running for as long as possible and on mute overnight.  It certainly seemed to help burn in as intended and I am now overjoyed with my  sound .

You could also say that anything will sound better after listening to the TQ CD  .

Its worth a try for £20 .

Pete. 

The new TQB din-din I put in on Saturday has settled down now of its own accord.

G

pete T15 posted:

You could also say that anything will sound better after listening to the TQ CD  .

 

Now that I CAN agree with    ........................  

Mike-B posted:

pete T15 posted:

You could also say that anything will sound better after listening to the TQ CD  .

 

Now that I CAN agree with    ........................  

Ooops - forgot to mention - it's mean for your hifi not for you 

Was supposed to type MEANT not MEAN

graeme is there a vast difference between din & rca as I've said on my post i have the hi-line in at the moment to see if it sits well with the tellurium silver cable,if I'm not satisfied I'm going to add ultra black or graphite interconnect but unaware which style rca or din.

'Vast' would possibly be over stating it. When it is a new cable plus new connectors plus I introduced a BNC-BNC DC1, there are simply too many variables to pin it down to Din or RCA.

All in all I prefer the sound now than I did before the change.

G

Ok, I've had this running for a couple of hours, mainly with the mute button on although I have to say it's strangely addictive to listen to.  My cable is pretty new although I suspect it is either run in or very close to being run in.  I have been playing the same albums I played yesterday to see if I can hear a difference and it is not easy to say either yes or no.  I feel as though positioning is tighter and that there is slightly more clarity but whether that is because of the track or because I am listening closer or through a placebo affect I couldn't say - having said that even if it is the latter two it's probably worth twenty quid to play it once a month or so because Tom Petty is sounding fantastic at the moment.  I will run it with mute off whilst at work tomorrow and see if I can hear any difference then too.  Tom does sound very very good at the moment though

the silver speaker cable had a 100 + hours run in before it was installed and the impact from the previous chord epic twin was amazing.so am i right in saying graeme you are using a din interconnect now.i have a chord anthem 2 rca interconnect which i can try after the trial with the hi-line is complete but i was told speaker & interconnect from the same company was always the better way to go.I don't know if it is just me but everything after a while gets very confusing,i suppose that is why there are forums.

I have a Chord Anthem Reference RCA - RCA and have just replaced it with a TQ Black to match my speaker cables - the latter is better in my system despite the Chord being a fine cable and more expensive.  Mine is an RCA - RCA though 

dopeydog posted:

the silver speaker cable had a 100 + hours run in before it was installed and the impact from the previous chord epic twin was amazing.so am i right in saying graeme you are using a din interconnect now.i have a chord anthem 2 rca interconnect which i can try after the trial with the hi-line is complete but i was told speaker & interconnect from the same company was always the better way to go.I don't know if it is just me but everything after a while gets very confusing,i suppose that is why there are forums.

I have used Hiline RCA-Din & Chord Anthem2 RCA-Din & TQB RCA-RCA with Hugo into SN2. Of these 3 I preferred the TQB.

With NDAC back I temporarily used the TQB RCA-RCA until 6 days ago when I replaced it with the single Din-Din TQB. The latter in combination with the Naim DC1 BNC-BNC digital cable and TQB speaker cable is sounding absolutely spot-on (see 'New' Naim Dac Strikes a Chord). 

G

dayjay posted:

Ok, I've had this running for a couple of hours, mainly with the mute button on although I have to say it's strangely addictive to listen to.  My cable is pretty new although I suspect it is either run in or very close to being run in.  I have been playing the same albums I played yesterday to see if I can hear a difference and it is not easy to say either yes or no.  I feel as though positioning is tighter and that there is slightly more clarity but whether that is because of the track or because I am listening closer or through a placebo affect I couldn't say - having said that even if it is the latter two it's probably worth twenty quid to play it once a month or so because Tom Petty is sounding fantastic at the moment.  I will run it with mute off whilst at work tomorrow and see if I can hear any difference then too.  Tom does sound very very good at the moment though

Hi Dayjay - running the 'system refresh' track on 'mute' defeats its purpose a little bit. It's mean as a refresher for the whole system, including speakers.

For burning in cables TQ have a joyous 1 hour odyssey of noises (track 2)

Prompted by this thread I'm just playing the track 3 refresher now . Its best described as tinnitus on acid whilst tuning the radio in ! I don't think it'll make the top 40 but its growing on me ..

It's really is quite catchy when listened to on acid or strong tranquillisers!

It might not be your thing but hifi' love it, I guess electronics have different tastes to us humans!

Adam Zielinski posted:

dayjay posted:

Ok, I've had this running for a couple of hours, mainly with the mute button on although I have to say it's strangely addictive to listen to.  My cable is pretty new although I suspect it is either run in or very close to being run in.  I have been playing the same albums I played yesterday to see if I can hear a difference and it is not easy to say either yes or no.  I feel as though positioning is tighter and that there is slightly more clarity but whether that is because of the track or because I am listening closer or through a placebo affect I couldn't say - having said that even if it is the latter two it's probably worth twenty quid to play it once a month or so because Tom Petty is sounding fantastic at the moment.  I will run it with mute off whilst at work tomorrow and see if I can hear any difference then too.  Tom does sound very very good at the moment though

Hi Dayjay - running the 'system refresh' track on 'mute' defeats its purpose a little bit. It's mean as a refresher for the whole system, including speakers.

For burning in cables TQ have a joyous 1 hour odyssey of noises (track 2)

I wonder how that one sounds and if it is any different or just a longer version of the ten minute one?  I ran it earlier today with the amp on too

And what was the result of running no 3 with the amp on?