Naim should take Apple's approach....

I have a 5s and the touch screen works randomly so it works when it wants to.

I'm keeping it like that......

I'm assuming the 5s is the same? Is it only a problem if the fingerprint  thingy is activated?

Just wanted to say that i'll not send it back to Apple as i'm not sure competent people would take care of it. I've already lost a faulty Motorola and a Nokia sending them back to "mummy".

Btw i checked all settings with a couple of friends that own a 5s and they are correct.

The "solution" is to find someone who will swap the screen while transferring the old home button / fingerprint sensor to the new display.  It's more time consuming but any good repairer should do it for you.

This isn't guaranteed to prevent problems, but is less likely to cause issues.

Fingerprint security - what an oxymoron. Your phone is, after all, covered in your fingerprints. Lose your smartphone to the right kind of thief and he can simply lift the security key (your fingerprint) from the device itself. What accounts with remembered passwords will he have access to then?

Passwords, credit cards, PINS, and smart devices can be replaced. Once you've submitted your fingerprint for recognition, your unique biometric identifier is subject to hacking. If compromised, it becomes obsolete in perpetuity.

I realize my response is a bit hyperbolic with regard to the current i-phone issue, and you've got nine other fingerprints available. Still, I'd never involve my biometrics with something as simple as logon, etc. Are four keystrokes really that much an inconvenience?

joerand posted:

Fingerprint security - what an oxymoron. Your phone is, after all, covered in your fingerprints. Lose your smartphone to the right kind of thief and he can simply lift the security key (your fingerprint) from the device itself. What accounts with remembered passwords will he have access to then?

Passwords, credit cards, PINS, and smart devices can be replaced. Once you've submitted your fingerprint for recognition, your unique biometric identifier is subject to hacking. If compromised, it becomes obsolete in perpetuity.

I realize my response is a bit hyperbolic with regard to the current i-phone issue, and you've got nine other fingerprints available. Still, I'd never involve my biometrics with something as simple as logon, etc. Are four keystrokes really that much an inconvenience?

Joe,

The sad fact is that most people use really obvious, guessable PINs (1111, 1234 etc) which in my eyes isn't any more secure. 

A determined hacker may be able to lift your fingerprint and unlock the device but that's a very small percentage of the population.  Pretty much anyone can randomly try some PIN combinations.

Graham Clarke posted:

joerand posted:

Fingerprint security - what an oxymoron. Your phone is, after all, covered in your fingerprints. Lose your smartphone to the right kind of thief and he can simply lift the security key (your fingerprint) from the device itself. What accounts with remembered passwords will he have access to then?

Passwords, credit cards, PINS, and smart devices can be replaced. Once you've submitted your fingerprint for recognition, your unique biometric identifier is subject to hacking. If compromised, it becomes obsolete in perpetuity.

I realize my response is a bit hyperbolic with regard to the current i-phone issue, and you've got nine other fingerprints available. Still, I'd never involve my biometrics with something as simple as logon, etc. Are four keystrokes really that much an inconvenience?

Joe,

The sad fact is that most people use really obvious, guessable PINs (1111, 1234 etc) which in my eyes isn't any more secure. 

A determined hacker may be able to lift your fingerprint and unlock the device but that's a very small percentage of the population.  Pretty much anyone can randomly try some PIN combinations.

+1.

The fingerprint needs to come from an actual finger.

So, the ability to lift a print off a surface and re create it on someone else 's finger is pretty diffcult.  Also, the biometric data is strongly encrypted and stays on the device   I.e. Not trsamitted or stored elsewhere.

Loads of articles on the web, dating back three years ago when the tech was first intro'd.

Of course, if really concerned, a toe print is the way to go 

Eloise posted:

The "solution" is to find someone who will swap the screen while transferring the old home button / fingerprint sensor to the new display.  It's more time consuming but any good repairer should do it for you.

This isn't guaranteed to prevent problems, but is less likely to cause issues.

Thanks!

But i live in the middle of nowhere here and it would be like giving your Naims to an electrician (with respect) for recapping and so on. Problem is with the screen. I can access the main menu with my fingers on the lower button but when i try to write  a message simply the keyboard does not work. So i have to get back to home menu and try again till it starts working again........ And it never fell. Thanks anyway!