New boxes have arrived

wenger2015 posted:

Apologies MDS, just noticed I asked a stupid question, their is only one powerline.

I didn't realise changing the power lead on a napsc was a worth doing, you obviously have and it's made an improvement ?

It was the first Poweline I tried.  Dealer, on a tip from Salisbury, got in touch and offered to pop round in the evening to give it a go. Within the first 10 secs of the song both of us were pretty stunned at the difference it made.  I ordered one straightaway.  Since then I've bought four more but it the first on the Napsc that made the biggest difference in my system.  When I posted about this a couple of years ago a few other members tried and most reported positive benefit. Not all, but most.  It's easy and cost-free to try it.

Mike

wenger2015 posted:

Hi Strat (Fender), 

Thanks for the welcome, I hope theirs no iniation ceremony  to go through!!! Lol

Just wondering how long the 250dr & 282  will take to settle down and start singing ? Any ideas ?

I think the 282 took longer - say 3 months?  But the biggest change was in the 1st month. The 250 I think was pretty well there after a couple of days. 

 Sorry - repeat but an XPS2 - a used non DR will be fine - transforms the CDX2.  

MDS posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Apologies MDS, just noticed I asked a stupid question, their is only one powerline.

I didn't realise changing the power lead on a napsc was a worth doing, you obviously have and it's made an improvement ?

It was the first Poweline I tried.  Dealer, on a tip from Salisbury, got in touch and offered to pop round in the evening to give it a go. Within the first 10 secs of the song both of us were pretty stunned at the difference it made.  I ordered one straightaway.  Since then I've bought four more but it the first on the Napsc that made the biggest difference in my system.  When I posted about this a couple of years ago a few other members tried and most reported positive benefit. Not all, but most.  It's easy and cost-free to try it.

Mike

Thanks for the tip....just one question, do you think you need one on each box?

The Strat (Fender) posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Hi Strat (Fender), 

Thanks for the welcome, I hope theirs no iniation ceremony  to go through!!! Lol

Just wondering how long the 250dr & 282  will take to settle down and start singing ? Any ideas ?

I think the 282 took longer - say 3 months?  But the biggest change was in the 1st month. The 250 I think was pretty well there after a couple of days. 

 Sorry - repeat but an XPS2 - a used non DR will be fine - transforms the CDX2.  

Yes I agree totally about the xps, everytime I've heard one it's made a significant difference.

I suppose it's just a matter of being patient regarding the run in time..

wenger2015 posted:

MDS posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Apologies MDS, just noticed I asked a stupid question, their is only one powerline.

I didn't realise changing the power lead on a napsc was a worth doing, you obviously have and it's made an improvement ?

It was the first Poweline I tried.  Dealer, on a tip from Salisbury, got in touch and offered to pop round in the evening to give it a go. Within the first 10 secs of the song both of us were pretty stunned at the difference it made.  I ordered one straightaway.  Since then I've bought four more but it the first on the Napsc that made the biggest difference in my system.  When I posted about this a couple of years ago a few other members tried and most reported positive benefit. Not all, but most.  It's easy and cost-free to try it.

Mike

Thanks for the tip....just one question, do you think you need one on each box?

'Need' is a bit subjective, of course.  And PLs aren't cheap. Probably best to try one at a time on each box and decide whether (a) you can hear an improvement and if so (b) whether the improvement justifies the cost.  

In my experience the PL on the Napsc gave the biggest benefit and if I could afford only one, that is where it would go.

Mike  

Finkfan posted:

Hi Strat. No I didn't get to the Neat room unfortunately. Spent a lot of time in the Naim demos! I'm down in Somerset. Where abouts are you and your CDS3? 

I'm in Buckingham - east of Oxford on way to Milton Keynes - if ever your this way happy to provide a coffee and few tunes to give you a flavour.

Regards,

Lindsay

wenger2015 posted:

Hi RSCH, interesting that the most significant change came with the powerline to the Hicap...previously it was mentioned the napsc ....maybe I need to demo with one on each...

Was the change with the Hicap straight away or did it need time to burn in?

Hi Wenger,

I bought them as new stock, apparently were mint and boxed but  i can't  swear being  totally unused.

Another nice surprise was the effect carried on my bare XS before the 552 arrival. It gave a nice smooth

open and relaxed sounstage,

Compared with a previous  set up including 555/PS DR into Nait XS/HC DR and SL2,  the only 

drawback was a little loss of clarity,  micro detail and slam but with benefits in terms of smoothness and refinement.

We have to bear in mind  that a new  dedicated Fraim stack for 555 head was put into the equation.

Regards

Roberto

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Finkfan posted:

Hi Strat. No I didn't get to the Neat room unfortunately. Spent a lot of time in the Naim demos! I'm down in Somerset. Where abouts are you and your CDS3? 

I'm in Buckingham - east of Oxford on way to Milton Keynes - if ever your this way happy to provide a coffee and few tunes to give you a flavour.

Regards,

Lindsay

Thanks Strat. If I ever get up your way I'll give you a shout. I'll bring a hand full of CDs and a pint of milk. 

Adam

MDS posted:

wenger2015 posted:

MDS posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Apologies MDS, just noticed I asked a stupid question, their is only one powerline.

I didn't realise changing the power lead on a napsc was a worth doing, you obviously have and it's made an improvement ?

It was the first Poweline I tried.  Dealer, on a tip from Salisbury, got in touch and offered to pop round in the evening to give it a go. Within the first 10 secs of the song both of us were pretty stunned at the difference it made.  I ordered one straightaway.  Since then I've bought four more but it the first on the Napsc that made the biggest difference in my system.  When I posted about this a couple of years ago a few other members tried and most reported positive benefit. Not all, but most.  It's easy and cost-free to try it.

Mike

Thanks for the tip....just one question, do you think you need one on each box?

'Need' is a bit subjective, of course.  And PLs aren't cheap. Probably best to try one at a time on each box and decide whether (a) you can hear an improvement and if so (b) whether the improvement justifies the cost.  

In my experience the PL on the Napsc gave the biggest benefit and if I could afford only one, that is where it would go.

 

Mike  

I have 2 powerlines, one is on cdx2 and the 2nd on the nap250 Dr, I thought before I start experimenting I need to wait until boxes have gone through break in period. But I'm very interested to see what works...

rsch posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Hi RSCH, interesting that the most significant change came with the powerline to the Hicap...previously it was mentioned the napsc ....maybe I need to demo with one on each...

Was the change with the Hicap straight away or did it need time to burn in?

Hi Wenger,

I bought them as new stock, apparently were mint and boxed but  i can't  swear being  totally unused.

Another nice surprise was the effect carried on my bare XS before the 552 arrival. It gave a nice smooth

open and relaxed sounstage,

Compared with a previous  set up including 555/PS DR into Nait XS/HC DR and SL2,  the only 

drawback was a little loss of clarity,  micro detail and slam but with benefits in terms of smoothness and refinement.

We have to bear in mind  that a new  dedicated Fraim stack for 555 head was put into the equation.

Regards

Roberto

Sounds like you have a very nice set up, and that naim fraim would certainly have an impact.

I've decided it's best to wait until my new boxes have gone through the break in period, then I might experiment with the powerlines.

wenger2015 posted:

I have 2 powerlines, one is on cdx2 and the 2nd on the nap250 Dr, I thought before I start experimenting I need to wait until boxes have gone through break in period. But I'm very interested to see what works...

Cdx2.2---2015

Sopra's2---2015

282/250DR/HCDR---2016

2 PL's

Take 2 pills twice a day, and no Naim Forum's for two weeks and you'll be fine!

Nice System!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

Allante93 posted:

wenger2015 posted:

I have 2 powerlines, one is on cdx2 and the 2nd on the nap250 Dr, I thought before I start experimenting I need to wait until boxes have gone through break in period. But I'm very interested to see what works...

Cdx2.2---2015

Sopra's2---2015

282/250DR/HCDR---2016

2 PL's

Take 2 pills twice a day, and no Naim Forum's for two weeks and you'll be fine!

Nice System!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

What pills do you recommend ?  And any particular colour pills?  Lol

Just an update on the new boxes, I've had everything up and running constantly night and day for about 75 hours.

Finally experienced that night and day moment when the new boxes decided to burst into life. What a transformation, something I've not experienced before, the depth, warmth, detail is simply stunning, if anyone is thinking of the 282/250dr/cdx2/Hicap dr with a pair of Sopra2's combination ...then all I can say is it works extremely  well.

Lucky you!

My 282 / SuperCapDR / 250DR is still a bit 'stiff' - tortured it all day today with music - off sick at home, so plenty of time to play loads and loads.... Things are starting to move, but still a bit to go

Adam Zielinski posted:

Lucky you!

My 282 / SuperCapDR / 250DR is still a bit 'stiff' - tortured it all day today with music - off sick at home, so plenty of time to play loads and loads.... Things are starting to move, but still a bit to go

How long have you had your boxes? I was under the impression everything needed about 500 hrs, which is one hell of a long time! Maybe I have just got lucky, or maybe the boxes could hear me crying at the 74 hour point!!! 

Around 2 weeks - they got to play perhaps 50-60 hours. The good thing is that they are integrated with the AV setup, so they get their workout even when TV is being watched.

Adam Zielinski posted:

Around 2 weeks - they got to play perhaps 50-60 hours. The good thing is that they are integrated with the AV setup, so they get their workout even when TV is being watched.

One thing that possibly helped the process for me was using a system preparation cd, I've got the tq one, I had it going during the night a couple of times, it's not the sort of thing you would want to listen too, but fine if your asleep!!!

 Ps hope your feeling better soon

Thanks! We've had some crazy weather down here in Warsaw - snow, than +10 the next day. On and off for a week. Probably too much to handle. Skiing last week probably did not help either....

Yeap - subjected my boxes to the TQ disc as well. It's quite a handy torture device  too.

Whilst we at that topic - how often do you use Track 3 (the system refresher one)?

Adam Zielinski posted:

Thanks! We've had some crazy weather down here in Warsaw - snow, than +10 the next day. On and off for a week. Probably too much to handle. Skiing last week probably did not help either....

Yeap - subjected my boxes to the TQ disc as well. It's quite a handy torture device  too.

Whilst we at that topic - how often do you use Track 3 (the system refresher one)?

The TQ is ideal for unwanted visitors!!! I tell them it's kraftworks latest cd...

I used the refresher cd quite a bit whilst running in the sopra'2s, usually just put it on repeat over night, same with running in the new boxes, so I haven't just used track 3..

wenger2015 posted:

Just an update on the new boxes, I've had everything up and running constantly night and day for about 75 hours.

Finally experienced that night and day moment when the new boxes decided to burst into life. What a transformation, something I've not experienced before, the depth, warmth, detail is simply stunning, if anyone is thinking of the 282/250dr/cdx2/Hicap dr with a pair of Sopra2's combination ...then all I can say is it works extremely  well.

Congratulations Wenger! Looking forward to popping round on Saturday for a listen

Finkfan posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Just an update on the new boxes, I've had everything up and running constantly night and day for about 75 hours.

Finally experienced that night and day moment when the new boxes decided to burst into life. What a transformation, something I've not experienced before, the depth, warmth, detail is simply stunning, if anyone is thinking of the 282/250dr/cdx2/Hicap dr with a pair of Sopra2's combination ...then all I can say is it works extremely  well.

Congratulations Wenger! Looking forward to popping round on Saturday for a listen

Thanks finkfan, just at the moment I'm in hi-fi heaven!!!!

Look forward to seeing you at weekend. Will fire up the coffee machine.

First WOW moment just happened! The boxes are starting to sing. Sweeeeeeet.... 

Fantastic....it certainly is a sweeeeet moment after a long wait. 

Ive been told once you have that 'wow moment' things just keep getting better and better....

Hi Wenger. Thanks for the demo this afternoon. The new setup sounds absolutely stunning. 

Finkfan posted:

Hi Wenger. Thanks for the demo this afternoon. The new setup sounds absolutely stunning. 

Thanks Finkfan, just need an xps dr for cdx2 and move up from single cream to double cream for the coffee!!!!