A couple of questions from a confused newcomer to the streaming world. Help! Please!
Posted by: Simon HK on 17 April 2016
Hi folks, I have a UnitiServe with hard disc version ("US"), ripped some songs on it. I have a NAS with other songs ripped on it too.
Both are connected to my NDX via a switch.
The US has automatically scanned the NAS and I can gain access to all the songs ripped on both the US and the NAS by using the Naim App. Fantastic! But, I have subsequently ripped some songs by using the US as the primary storage, therefore those songs subsequently ripped can only be "seen" and found on the US as displayed by the Naim App, and not "seen" and found on the NAS as displayed by the Naim App.
The questions which I'd like to ask here are:-
(1) can I transfer those songs now exist only on the US, to the NAS (so that my NAS can store everything I ripped so far there) for the sake of better and neater storage arrangement?
(2) whether I can, in future ripping, rip new songs onto both the US and the NAS at the same time?
(3) in case (2) is not feasible, what do you guys usually do for ripped files storage arrangement?
Any experience to share if you don't mind??
Thanks in advance!!
Simon
There is a procedure to setting up a NAS and UnitiServe. If you email me I will send you the instructions (my email is in my profile).
It's essentially down to access rights, setting up stores and telling US what to do and where to store and look for the data.
Adam
Hi Adam, I am about to buy a NAS for back up duties for my Unitiserve and would also appreciate these set up instructions, I will email you with my email address if that is OK.
Many thanks.
PS waiting patiently for the update on the NDS/SL IC home demo!
Simon HK posted:Hi folks, I have a UnitiServe with hard disc version ("US"), ripped some songs on it. I have a NAS with other songs ripped on it too.
Both are connected to my NDX via a switch.
The US has automatically scanned the NAS and I can gain access to all the songs ripped on both the US and the NAS by using the Naim App. Fantastic! But, I have subsequently ripped some songs by using the US as the primary storage, therefore those songs subsequently ripped can only be "seen" and found on the US as displayed by the Naim App, and not "seen" and found on the NAS as displayed by the Naim App.
The questions which I'd like to ask here are:-
(1) can I transfer those songs now exist only on the US, to the NAS (so that my NAS can store everything I ripped so far there) for the sake of better and neater storage arrangement?
(2) whether I can, in future ripping, rip new songs onto both the US and the NAS at the same time?
(3) in case (2) is not feasible, what do you guys usually do for ripped files storage arrangement?
Any experience to share if you don't mind??
Thanks in advance!!
Simon, it sounds as if everything is working as intended.
The location where a UnitiServe stores music from cd's it has ripped is called a "Store." Your uServe by default rips cd's to its own internal hard drive. The default Store for ripping cd's is on its hard drive.
The UnitiServe can also scan your network and find other areas where music resides, and play from those places. Those places are called "Shares."
If you owned a UnitiServe with an internal solid-state drive, you would be required to set up the Store on a nas; the internal drive of the ssd UnitiServe is not meant to hold the Store.
You can set up your UnitiServe to create and look for a Store on your nas, if you like. I'm not sure what the advantage of this would be however. The nice thing about the Naim App and a UnitiServe is that all the music is aggregated by the Naim App, so that when you search by Artist you see them all no matter whether they are on the nas (in a Share) or on the uServe (in a Store). BUT, if you must, you can create a Store on the nas.
If you really want to move the files you've ripped from the uServe to the nas you can do that too, but again I'm not sure to what purpose. You can simply copy the files over to a folder in the nas that is working as a Share.
Do you have the UnitiServe set up to do automatic backups to the nas? If not, that should be a first order of business.
Bart posted:Do you have the UnitiServe set up to do automatic backups to the nas? If not, that should be a first order of business.
Wholly agree with this. One cannot have too many data back-up systems.
Nick from Suffolk posted:Bart posted:Do you have the UnitiServe set up to do automatic backups to the nas? If not, that should be a first order of business.
Wholly agree with this. One cannot have too many data back-up systems.
+1 Wouldn't it be neater to transfer all the music files to the US internal hard drive, and just have backup copies on the NAS?
Thanks all!
The reason I'd love to move the ripped albums on my US to the NAS is that:-
1. I have already had around 1,500 CDs on my NAS (these albums are not on the internal hard drive of the US which currently only holds around 100 albums since my acquiring the US);
2. I'm gonna rip around another 2,200 CDs more albums;
3. My understanding is that the US internal hard drive does not have the capacity of holding some 3,800 CDs.
So I thought the best thing to do is to have everything, I mean the 3,800 CDs, stored on the NAS (with back up). That way, all ripped CDs will be stored on the NAS for replay, and such CDs will also be backed up on another storage area on the NAS. The US would serve the sole function of being a ripping interface.
I assume I can set up the NAS as a primary Store (via Naim desktop client?) so that, after setting this up, all CDs ripped by the the US will henceforth be stored directly on the NAS. If my assumption is correct, then the only thing that I need to do would therefore be transferring the CDs already ripped on my US to my NAS.
Any comment on this storing idea? or any experience to share on how to go about handing this? Thanks in advance!
Simon
Your US might be getting quite full with that many CDs, if you store them as WAV. Many of us use FLAC instead, which is still lossless, but takes up significantly less space. I think they'd fit.
Simon HK - correct on all counts.
Got your email - will send the detailed instructions over.
Adam
Remember that cd's ripped to a store on the nas needs to be backed up either manually or automated by another program, maybe a feature in the nas firmware.
The US can work with more than one store, so when the internal hd in the serve is full, new files are stored on the nas, however you seem to be very insistant on not using the hd space on the serve you have paid for.
Claus
Claus-Thoegersen posted:Remember that cd's ripped to a store on the nas needs to be backed up either manually or automated by another program, maybe a feature in the nas firmware.
The US can work with more than one store, so when the internal hd in the serve is full, new files are stored on the nas, however you seem to be very insistant on not using the hd space on the serve you have paid for.
Claus
I'd recommend not using the internal drive of the UnitiServe. In case it fails, the ripped music is sitting safely on the NAS drive.
Adam Zielinski posted:Claus-Thoegersen posted:Remember that cd's ripped to a store on the nas needs to be backed up either manually or automated by another program, maybe a feature in the nas firmware.
The US can work with more than one store, so when the internal hd in the serve is full, new files are stored on the nas, however you seem to be very insistant on not using the hd space on the serve you have paid for.
Claus
I'd recommend not using the internal drive of the UnitiServe. In case it fails, the ripped music is sitting safely on the NAS drive.
When it fails like other drives, you of course have a backup! No problem the Us can make a daily backup fully automated.
The only hd failure I have had in the last 5 year with a Naim server fortunately was my single disk in my readynas, so no big deal I just have to setup the share to my downloaded music, make the backup job again and everything worked fine.
Claus
That can work too.
The most important thing - back up, back up, back up (well - that's 3 things). And keep the backup independent of the network.
Adam