Power strip with naim gear

Futureshop are brilliant, you can buy from them with confidence. 

My experience is power amp then source then hi cap then napsc. Search plug order on the forum and there are a few threads on the topic. The music sounds more full bodied to me than the other arrangements.

Thanks

Naimark posted:

Italy

This is their distributor: DML Audio. The details are on the Wireworld site, under: where to buy.

Just find a shop closest to you. No need to drag it all the way from the UK.

I bought mine from a dealer 10 min walk away (he is also my Naim dealer)  

Belfast Taxman posted:

Thinking of getting one but rather than Powerline does anyone recommend any particular version of the Matrix mains connector cables. Prices seem to rise from the basic Stratus at £70  to rather mind boggling amounts. Their HDMI cables makes Super Lumina seem cheap! There is another one, the Aurora at £140, anyone have experience of this?

I started using the Matrix 2 with my one and only Powerline as the mains lead from the wall to it. I then substituted this for a Supra LowRad (the 2.5mm version) and put the Powerline from the Matrix 2 to my 250DR. It sounded better that way. The LowRad mains cables are around £50 and great VFM in my opinion and can be found at Futureshop or MCRU - both are very reputable and helpful.

Adam Zielinski posted:

Naimark posted:

Italy

This is their distributor: DML Audio. The details are on the Wireworld site, under: where to buy.

Just find a shop closest to you. No need to drag it all the way from the UK.

I bought mine from a dealer 10 min walk away (he is also my Naim dealer)  

 

 

I got much better price and much faster shipping from Futureshop than from my local dealer. Local dealer rarely stocks gear I'm after. I respect the idea of supporting your local dealer but it's just not possible always.

nigelb posted:

Belfast Taxman posted:

Thinking of getting one but rather than Powerline does anyone recommend any particular version of the Matrix mains connector cables. Prices seem to rise from the basic Stratus at £70  to rather mind boggling amounts. Their HDMI cables makes Super Lumina seem cheap! There is another one, the Aurora at £140, anyone have experience of this?

I started using the Matrix 2 with my one and only Powerline as the mains lead from the wall to it. I then substituted this for a Supra LowRad (the 2.5mm version) and put the Powerline from the Matrix 2 to my 250DR. It sounded better that way. The LowRad mains cables are around £50 and great VFM in my opinion and can be found at Futureshop or MCRU - both are very reputable and helpful.

 How would you describe the difference between LoRad and PowerLine when used from wall to Matrix? 

We have the Matrix2 here. It's a good block but limited for what it is. We would only recommend it for lower end systems. It's better than the typical cheap things you buy from Clas Ohlson or Maplin but nowhere near as good as our favourite, which is the MusicWorks Perspex. This is also star earthed but in a different league in terms of performance.

So I have a question - you have a major system there if you are plugging in XPS, Supercap and 250, so why are you cheaping out with such a limited budget? In Europe you should be looking at the MusicLine PowerIgel.

Frank.

To be perfectly honest I have made so many changes and upgrades to my system since putting the LoRad on the Matrix 2 and moving the Powerline to the 250DR I can't remember exactly how it sounded better. I just remember I preferred the sound this way.

It is of course worth experimenting as things may be a little different in other systems and your household electrics/appliances may also play a part. At least the LoRad power leads are cheap enough you are not risking too much cash.

Frank Abela posted:

We have the Matrix2 here. It's a good block but limited for what it is. We would only recommend it for lower end systems. It's better than the typical cheap things you buy from Clas Ohlson or Maplin but nowhere near as good as our favourite, which is the MusicWorks Perspex. This is also star earthed but in a different league in terms of performance.

So I have a question - you have a major system there if you are plugging in XPS, Supercap and 250, so why are you cheaping out with such a limited budget? In Europe you should be looking at the MusicLine PowerIgel.

Frank.

I thought about the Powerigel but it would preclude the use of Powerlines, wouldn't it? I know there is a posh version of the Powerigel that uses Powerline leads but that is rather too expensive.

Good point, but mine remains valid. Naimark is plugging in an XPS, SUPERCAP and 250 so he's using a fairly high end Naim system. There seems little point in using half measures at this stage in the game.

And the MusicWorks we use is called a Reflex Lite of course - it's made of perspex...duh!

Frank.

Frank Abela posted:

We have the Matrix2 here. It's a good block but limited for what it is. We would only recommend it for lower end systems. It's better than the typical cheap things you buy from Clas Ohlson or Maplin but nowhere near as good as our favourite, which is the MusicWorks Perspex. This is also star earthed but in a different league in terms of performance.

So I have a question - you have a major system there if you are plugging in XPS, Supercap and 250, so why are you cheaping out with such a limited budget? In Europe you should be looking at the MusicLine PowerIgel.

Frank.

Hi Frank,

Is there also a Schuko version of the MusicWorks  ?

Regards

Roberto

I don't know, sorry. I really wish there were actually, since it would resolve the issue here in short order, being as it's such a good block for sensible money. There's nothing about that on their site so I suspect not.

Frank.

Frank Abela posted:

Good point, but mine remains valid. Naimark is plugging in an XPS, SUPERCAP and 250 so he's using a fairly high end Naim system. There seems little point in using half measures at this stage in the game.

And the MusicWorks we use is called a Reflex Lite of course - it's made of perspex...duh!

Frank.

Frank - what about Furutech e-TP60? Have you ever tried this one?

I can still swap my Matrix2 to Furutech for my NDX/555Ps/282/SCDR/250DR...

Adam

Frank, I wasn't doubting your advice to the OP and of course it makes perfect sense. It is simply that I nearly bought a Powerigel but decided against it as I planned to introduce Powerlines.

I may well consider a Reflex Lite in place of the Matrix 2 I use for my black boxes as Powerlines can be deployed here.

Adam, not tried the furutech, sorry.

Nigel, yep I appreciate that, and it makes perfect sense. The problem with the Matrix2 is that it softens the treble and the timing is affected. Is it worth doing this to save less than 1/20th the value of the system (or thereabouts)?

Frank. 

Adam Zielinski posted:

Frank Abela posted:

Good point, but mine remains valid. Naimark is plugging in an XPS, SUPERCAP and 250 so he's using a fairly high end Naim system. There seems little point in using half measures at this stage in the game.

And the MusicWorks we use is called a Reflex Lite of course - it's made of perspex...duh!

Frank.

Frank - what about Furutech e-TP60? Have you ever tried this one?

I can still swap my Matrix2 to Furutech for my NDX/555Ps/282/SCDR/250DR...

Adam

I come from e-TP60. Even if it's much more expensive than Matrix, it sounded way worse in my system. You can check my gear in my profile.

I've also read comments about people preferring Matrix to the Powerigel. 

It's not always about the price of a component. Synergy is much more important. I guess you guys should already know this. I find Frank's comments funny that Matrix would be somehow not good enough for op's system. It certainly is good enough. 

Oh and about timing. I really can't hear any problems there. It's something that's never been affected in my system by power strips. IMO timing comes from bigger changes like source or amp and if the equipment chain is full Naim, how could there be problems with timing? 

Patu - I use Matrix 2 with the same system as yours. Sounds wonderful.

It' my second system that I'm a bit concerned about. I was testing the Furutech all last week - sounded really good. Than I put Matrix 2 there and somewhow some organic fluidity seem to have vanished. I initially put it down to a 'cold Mateix strip' - but it's not really that. I will test the Furutech again and will see what happens.

Adam Zielinski posted:

Patu - I use Matrix 2 with the same system as yours. Sounds wonderful.

It' my second system that I'm a bit concerned about. I was testing the Furutech all last week - sounded really good. Than I put Matrix 2 there and somewhow some organic fluidity seem to have vanished. I initially put it down to a 'cold Mateix strip' - but it's not really that. I will test the Furutech again and will see what happens.

Interesting! I think it just shows how system dependent the performance of a certain component can be. With my setup, Furutech was the one which took away the fluidity but brought this overly detailed, edgy and fatiguing performance with very tight sound. It took away the flow and fluidity, the toe tapping nature of Naim sound.