Powelined hicap-DR vs Supercap

Posted by: Fred11 on 21 May 2016

Hi!
Wonder if anybody has any experience comparing Supercap (olive or black) hicap-DR. I have a Dualrailed nap 12-160 powered by a hicap-DR with powerline. Would a supercap be able to improve on a 12. Asking because rumors says Naim themselves are using a 12-supercap in their service department. Guess this is question on both the best of old and newest of components....

Fred

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by GraemeH

Hi Fred - This changing a HCDR to Supercap 2 on a 282 this week might guide:

1. Low frequencies - much lower with real heft

2. Space round instruments - more evident

3. Timbres - more differentiated and accurate

4. Attack - greater stop/start speed

5. Soundstage - Wider, higher, deeper

6. Blacks - Blacker (of course!)

7. Instrument placement - More precise

8. Musically - More satisfying

All for now,

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Posted on: 21 May 2016 by Fred11

Dear Graem.
That sounds real interesting. I wonder though how it would be through the Nac 12, since it will only use half of the Supercap. Did you have two hicaps on it before you switched?
Regards
Fred

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by GraemeH

Fred11 posted:
Dear Graem.
That sounds real interesting. I wonder though how it would be through the Nac 12, since it will only use half of the Supercap. Did you have two hicaps on it before you switched?
Regards
Fred

Hi Fred - No, just one.

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by analogmusic

Graeme I really did not want to read this, but thanks, much appreciated.

Damn.

No matter how much I try to avoid this though, somehow in the end I know I'm going to have to get the Supercap for my 282.

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by Arun Mehan

Resistance is futile nod

The supercap takes the 282 to another level. Graeme has basically spelled out the improvements. The soundstage and imaging improvements are immediately evident and then one realizes the other subtler benefits.

I didn't have a DR version of the hicap when I upgraded to the supercap but the difference was so big, there's something to skipping the hicap(s) altogether.

Arun

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by Foot tapper

Supercap on a 282? Lovely...

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by GraemeH

Listening to 'Anthem of the Sun - Caution (Don't Stop on Tracks') and the sub-bass, not so evident before, is sooooo looooowwww!

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by sheffieldgraham

Arun Mehan posted:
Resistance is futile
The supercap takes the 282 to another level. Graeme has basically spelled out the improvements. The soundstage and imaging improvements are immediately evident and then one realizes the other subtler benefits.
I didn't have a DR version of the hicap when I upgraded to the supercap but the difference was so big, there's something to skipping the hicap(s) altogether.
Arun

Based on personal experience I totally agree.

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by Simon-in-Suffolk

And for an alternate view - my SuperCapDR on my 282 was a bit too hifi for me... on extended listens I preferred my HiCapDR. Kept my SuperCapDR for when I later got the 252.. beautiful...

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by GraemeH

Simon-in-Suffolk posted:
And for an alternate view - my SuperCapDR on my 282 was a bit too hifi for me... on extended listens I preferred my HiCapDR. Kept my SuperCapDR for when I later got the 252.. beautiful...

Not sure that's an 'alternate' view. I'm talking about a SCAP2 Simon, not a DR.

Posted on: 21 May 2016 by gary yeowell

SC2 on a 282 was quite simply one of those 'moments' for me. As i have said before, i'd not bother with a 282 without one.

Posted on: 22 May 2016 by Simon-in-Suffolk

GraemeH posted:
Simon-in-Suffolk posted:
And for an alternate view - my SuperCapDR on my 282 was a bit too hifi for me... on extended listens I preferred my HiCapDR. Kept my SuperCapDR for when I later got the 252.. beautiful...
Not sure that's an 'alternate' view. I'm talking about a SCAP2 Simon, not a DR.
G

Graeme, ok I see, how would you describe the differences between a SuperCap2 and SuperCapDR on a 282?.. I have only seriously listened to and currently own the DR version.. Perhaps it's the DR version that doesn't quite gel with the 282 to my ears?? This is plausible as I preferred the 555PS original to the DR version on my NDAC.