202/250dr
Posted by: benjy on 29 May 2016
Want to be sure that I can change up from a 200 amp to a 250dr amp. I'm using a 202 w/hi-cap dr and a 200 amp.Shouldn't the hi-cap be providing the power to the 202 instead of the 200?
Yes it will but if were me I would upgrade to a 282 first
benjy posted:Want to be sure that I can change up from a 200 amp to a 250dr amp. I'm using a 202 w/hi-cap dr and a 200 amp.Shouldn't the hi-cap be providing the power to the 202 instead of the 200?
Yes you can use a 250 with the 202. The 202 needs a power supply which can be fed from a 200, but not the 250.
Since you have a Hi-cap to power the 202 there's no problem. You might consider adding a NAPSC to the 202 though. All the NAIM power amps come with a power supply built in or in the case of 300 and 500 a separate box.
I would also go for the 282 first.
Ian.
Whew,thought I understood,but was having doubts,250 dr is on it's way (shortly- after the holiday weekend) 2nd hand but too good a deal to pass up on.As far as the pre-amp, will have to let funds re-build (as if they ever do),but also willing to wait and see if a new line comes out during the summer (long rumored) but since pre-amps didn't change prices w/last increase- perhaps it is going to happen. Fwiw,years ago,I had no trouble figuring out and wiring up my own stereo,ever since switching to naim (about 7 years) completely confused. Another + for changing,went looking for 200 box in attic (right where I thought it was) but found my (supposedly long lost tandberg fasett speakers)- they used to be in basement,at some point must have put them back in the box - in attic YAY
If you're sticking with the 202 and adding a 250 I would certainly look at adding the NAPSC for a relatively small additional outlay in cost.
Do feed back you're impressions. A 250 on a 202 is a topic that comes up now and then but so far no one has said how the DR does in that company, unless I've missed it.
Well Benjy, if you've got a great deal on a 250DR don't be disheartened by the advice on here. Yes, I would have said go for a 282 before a 250, but look on the positive side: you now know what your next upgrade should be!
I wouldn't waste valuable listening time waiting for a re-fresh of the pre-amp range. The 282 provides a great performance for its cost.
Mike
Yes, a bit unconventional going for 250DR before a 282 but why not if you have got a good deal on the 250DR. As others have said get yourself a NAPCS in the meantime as it makes a real difference for not much cost.
It might be worth a wait to see if anything happens with the preamp range only because a 282 might be even cheaper if it is superseded in some way. If not it will give you time to gather the funds together. Secondhand (sorry pre-loved) 282s offer great VFM and that 250 DR will need one eventually if you are to get the best out of it.
Here in the USA, the Nac 202 Msrp $3,795, while the Nap 250 DR's Msrp is $6,995.
I think Nac stands for Naim Audio Control, so the question becomes can the Nac 202 control the 250 DR?
Now the extreme flip side, Can A 552 control a 200? of course it can!
But if one can afford an 552, you would think they could pair it with at least a 300!
The Key word that's missing is Balance!
I Believe a Balanced System can extract more out of the recordings. Now I'm no expert, but I would guess the 282/250DR would yield a more balanced System than a 202/250 DR.
Now as one member put it, The 282/SCDR/250DR is as good as it gets, until 552/500 Territory!
Just my two cents, I'm quite sure their are others with much more experience than myself, that can answer your question!
Out!
Allante93!
Well I ran a 202/HCDR/250.2 for a while because a good deal was offered on a new 250.2. True, the 282 when it arrived was a bigger upgrade, but that didn't mean that the 250.2 sounded bad with the 202. It didn't. If you do get to a 282 you'll really appreciate the 250DR. The 250DR can bring speakers to life in a way that the 250.2 can't, good though it is.
To be honest,at this point,I'm trying to build a final system (well maybe a few changes). considered going to a 300 but with harbeth 30.1,don't think it is necessary,as far as pre-amp, either new models or 282 maybe 52,rest is cd5 w/flatcap2,linn lp 12 w/lingo,trampoline,circus bearing (i think) and lyra delos. may add cds3 ,tt is pretty much set,although time to either re-tip or new cart- it never ends. As far as hearing first,due to disabilities it is difficult to get to too many places,and less and less real dealers (in ny but don't go in the city). everything on quadraspire rack including wall rack for tt. Most of this is hard and getting harder to find
Sounds good Benjy, definitely a 300 would be overkill. Good luck saving and bargain hunting. I'm biased, having the 282, but from a purely cosmetic standpoint I'd be looking for a 282 to go with that 250DR and if the opportunity arises a Supercap is a very satisfying expense. Sorry to be adding to your shopping list.
Enjoy!
benjy posted:Whew,thought I understood,but was having doubts,250 dr is on it's way (shortly- after the holiday weekend) 2nd hand but too good a deal to pass up on.As far as the pre-amp, will have to let funds re-build (as if they ever do),but also willing to wait and see if a new line comes out during the summer (long rumored) but since pre-amps didn't change prices w/last increase- perhaps it is going to happen. Fwiw,years ago,I had no trouble figuring out and wiring up my own stereo,ever since switching to naim (about 7 years) completely confused. Another + for changing,went looking for 200 box in attic (right where I thought it was) but found my (supposedly long lost tandberg fasett speakers)- they used to be in basement,at some point must have put them back in the box - in attic
Benny,
You will surely enjoy the 250DR, and will not fret over things being "imbalanced" for a while. I think you are right, that by the time you are ready to upgrade further, your choices might be different. For that reason, maybe no rush for the NAPSC - wait and see. Enjoy your music.
Charlie