Decisions decisions

You don't say what power supply you've going to use on the 282.  When I had one I used a SuperCapDR and found that it worked very well with a 300DR, but you would need to be sure your source is up to such a revealing pre-power combination.  That said, I'm sure if you stick with what you have ordered you will be very pleased with the improvement you will hear over the 202/200.  Maybe this is one where patience will be rewarded. 

i was going to suggest using the 3.5K to upgrade your source, then i checked your profile and whoa -- no upgrade required there! so i'd suggest getting into the streaming game, if you haven't already. there are so many great radio stations you can stream and so much new music to be discovered -- then you can buy your favorites on vinyl!

Ordered a new 252-Supercap dr-250dr and a XPdr eight weeks ago still waiting was originally told three weeks seems that Naim are busy or using a Chinese calender !!!!!

Oops. I didn't look at your profile.  Source fine, but I wouldn't put a 300DR onto a 282 powered by a HiCapDR. 

Thanks for the responses.  I considered streaming and listened to both a Klimax and NDS when I performed the full fat upgrade on the LP12 as an alternative way to spend my budget.  It didn't grab me tbh, but am now considering it again purely for the convenience, as I'm getting pressured by the kids to have access to that unlimited music library.  Maybe it'll grow on me, but that project will only happen once I've upgraded the amps, power supplies and then the speakers.

Thanks for the advice on the 282 /hi-cap and not being man enough for the 300DR.  I guess my wallet is pleased to take a breather before the next part of the journey.

Wise choice, enjoy your half of the upgrade and be patient.

Having ran 282 with 250, I would say say this is a perfct pairing. I think you'd need a SuperCapDR to justify putting a NAP 300.

As you already have one HiCap, you may want to try a second one on your HiCap.

Streaming: NDS with 555PSDR into 282/250 sounds gloriously smooth

Harry the Hornet posted:

[Streaming] didn't grab me tbh, but am now considering it again purely for the convenience, as I'm getting pressured by the kids to have access to that unlimited music library.

'Pester power', who needs it?!

C.

Enjoy the new 282, Hicap, 250DR.   When the day comes that you want more, the Supercap should maybe be first on the list.  Naim have hit the ball out of the park with their Statement and new DR amps.  It seems they cannot build them fast enough for their eager customers, who must needs acquire unacustomed patience.

Cheers

Adam Zielinski posted:

As you already have one HiCap, you may want to try a second one on your HiCap.

I don't think that is the recommended configuration - but if it works for you .......... 

Hi Harry congratulations on your new 282!

_{^{Checked out your source, A ok!!!!}}

One thing for sure, you will get a lot of advice of how to spend your money, so I'm not going there!

However, I would like to briefly share my short encounter with Naim, along with two quotes that can be very influential when upgrading, or purchasing Naim gear!

Linn gear went out, and the older amps weren't serviced by Linn, So here I am! Getting up in age, and really don't have time to play the upgrade game. Hence, I jumped in two years ago with my first, and presumably last Rig!

1. I've had 282 with HC and SC, 252 and 552. Clearly, 552 is the best - there is just a certain "rightness" to it that it is instantly recognizable.

If I had to do it all over, I would have gone straight to a 282 with supercap and stayed with it until a secondhand 552 became available.

2. 282/SCDR/250DR is as good as it gets, until one enters the 552/500 Territory.

The first quote put a big dent in my 401 Savings!

Cdx2>282>HCDR>3 x 250.2 >Briks   End Game Active Briks!

Funny thing, I didn't follow the gent's Advice, and here I am, eyeballing a SCDR this very moment!

The Second quote, of Course was by a Gent who dwells @ 552/500 Naim DR. UK

Ok, looking at your source, I would suspect you think this is your end game, but who knows.

The Second quote, leaves so many options available down the road, and if this is the last straw, 282/SCDR/250DR sure looks nice Fraimed up!

If all goes well, I will be posting SQ differences between HCDR and SCDR. Many on the Forum prefer the latter, but nothing like, hands on experience! 

So my advice is, give the SCDR some serious thought, and Enjoy your Music The Why!

SuperCap powering a Superline, SuperCap powering a 252, SuperCap powering a Snaxo, SuperCap accompanied with a 300DR.........

Allante93!

I just switched from 202 hcdr/200 to 202hcdr/250dr(gently used) and was amazed at the difference.The biggest change was the soundstage itself- already very nice but voices seemed to be about a ft. off the floor,now they are at proper ear level (have no idea why that would change especially so much).Bass is stronger and better details throughout. The 282 /250 will definitely please you coming from 202/200. Just sit back and enjoy,no further upgrades needed. BTW ,my speakers are Harbeth 30.1

Chris Dolan posted:

Adam Zielinski posted:

As you already have one HiCap, you may want to try a second one on your HiCap.

I don't think that is the recommended configuration - but if it works for you .......... 

 That would be an interesting one indeed... I wonder if music would flow faster as a result? 

What I of course meant is that a 2nd HiCap can be tried on OP's 282.

In answer to the original question: no, the next weak point is more likely your speakers. Monitor Audio is not known as a great match. They're OK, but there are other brands which should align better for a more synergistic match in my view.

Frank.

By the way...

Harry - which Monitor Audios do you use?

There are at least two of us on this forum with GX300

Again, huge thanks for the posts.  Some real insights and good pointers.

A supercap will definitely be on my listen to list once the new amps have run in

Adam, the MA's are Gold 10's.  I will be changing them in the medium term, but as my profile shows I'm very much from the source first school of thought.

Harry,

don't put off with 282/Hicap/300. This was my first Naim amp set up and I kept it for years. Well before the DRmthing came along. It is a very musical and dynamic pairing. The 300 is certainly a good place to stop and it plays very nicely with the 252 should you ever get round to it. Again a combo I had for years. The 300 is not a weak link even with the 552!

Dave

Hi Harry, I'd think 282/250 is better balanced than 282/300. In fact, given you're a source first guy I'd have thought 252/250 before 282/300, but take a listen (with your source) and see what works. Also, given the quality of your TT and your source first orientation, IF you have any spare cash burning a hole is it worth thinking of a stand alone phono stage as priority?

oops -scrap that! didnt realise Urika is a phono stage - doh!

Very good points from Kevin.

252 / SCDR and NAP 250 make for a very good combination. A classic some would say.
As to speakers - just make sure all the other components are in place first. After all you do want to match your new speakers to the rest of the boxes.

I recently had a demo of a 282,Supercap DR,250 DR source was a NDX with a XPS DR speakers were PMC 23s these were changed to Spendor D7s this sounded superb but as we were using a Supercap I asked the dealer to change the 282 for a 252 this was the icing on the cake just sounded absolutely stunning.

Up to this point all cables were as supplied we did change the stock cable from the NDX to a Hi-line once again this improved the system.

After the demo an order was placed for a 252,Supercap DR,250 Dr, XPS Dr and Hi-Line to go with my NDX eight weeks on and I'm still waiting for delivery.

Adam is correct the 252,Supercap and 250 Dr is a very good combination.

PCD - can I annoy you just a little bit?  
Try the SuperLumina DIN-DIN.... It it expensive, but as soon as I put one in place of the HI-Line it was as if a veil was lifted. Also bass became more defined and well controlled.
But test it first if you get a chance - ideally before you pay for the HiLine.  You may still prefer what the HiLine does. At the end of the day - that's the only thing that matters - your enjoyment of music.

Adam 

Adam Zielinski posted:

PCD - can I annoy you just a little bit?  
Try the SuperLumina DIN-DIN.... It it expensive, but as soon as I put one in place of the HI-Line it was as if a veil was lifted. Also bass became more defined and well controlled.
But test it first if you get a chance - ideally before you pay for the HiLine.  You may still prefer what the HiLine does. At the end of the day - that's the only thing that matters - your enjoyment of music.

Adam 

I agree with Adam's advice. I first tried the SL interconnect when I was running a 282/SC/250.2 and a Hi-line on my CD source.  The jump in performance was very noticeable. I made up my mind that I was going to trade in my Hi-line for the SL about two minutes into the first song played!

Mike

Adam, MDS thanks for the advice the SL interconnect was on my list but I also ended up purchasing Four Power Lines and  Music Works Light Distrubution Block this diluted the funds slightly ,the Hi-Line is a secondhand item from my dealer at a good price should be able tp p/x it against a SL cable later at very little loss if any when funds allow will probably look at SL speaker leads at the same time.

This upgrade route was one of the reasons at including  the Supercap and 252 as I believe any future upgrades would benifit more from the inclusion of these to start with.

Will keep you posted when it's all installed.

Harry the Hornet posted:

After months of reading some interesting debates I decided to upgrade from my 200/202 to a 282/250DR.

Having originally been told I'd need to patient and wait 6 weeks, the wait time has now gone up to double that and I'm expecting the new amps towards the end of June.  What has eased the pain somewhat has been my excellent dealer, WYSAH, lending me their 282 so I can at least listen to half of the upgrade while I wait.  I have to say it was everything and a little more than I expected.

Anyway, I looked at a tweet today 

'…offering effortless transparency, focus, grip and timing.' @HIFICRITICmag on the NAP 300 DR. Read the full review: http://bit.ly/1Yf06lM 

What a review.  Whilst it is of course a much more expensive amp, I wonder if I need to find an extra 3.5k and go to the back of the queue again.... 

I ordered my 300DR last month and was told it will be here next week supposedly after it get's built fingers crossed