From Nap 250 to 500 for Ovator 600

Hutch posted:

Don't forget your S-600's will take a while to run in,particularly the BMR.  I have had mine on a 250 now for 2 months and they are still changing for the better.  Stepping up the power amp will make a difference, but I'd be inclined to check that after some more run in.

Hope you get to hear them singing, impressive speakers in my room.

Regards

Hutch

Thanks Hutch, I thought the BMR was only associated with the Snaxo 800's!

FRANK ABELATRADE MEMBER

3/17/11 10:14 AM. (5 years past)

""Firstly, BMR is a development on NXT technology. As I understand it, the whole surface of the BMR vibrates in a non-linear fashion reproducing the frequency range across the surface, as opposed to attempting to move the complete surface pistonically. So it's much more like a panel or electrostatic than a traditional driver, whether full range or not.

2ndly, unlike a fullrange driver the BMR doesn't beam heavily at high frequencies and maintains its dispersion. This certainly seems to affect its presentation quite heavily.

3rdly, the BMR extends far further than a traditional full range driver, but less than a supertweeter.

Note there are two Ovator BMRs currently - the unit in the S-400 is smaller than the one in the S-600.""

Regards,

Frank.

All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations...... 

Always nice to pick up info.

Kind of explains why many view the sound of the Ovators different  from traditional speakers!

Out!

Allante93!

Allante93 posted:

Kind of explains why many view the sound of the Ovators different  from traditional speakers!

Certainly different  

Hutch posted:

Don't forget your S-600's will take a while to run in,particularly the BMR.  I have had mine on a 250 now for 2 months and they are still changing for the better.  Stepping up the power amp will make a difference, but I'd be inclined to check that after some more run in.

Hope you get to hear them singing, impressive speakers in my room.

Regards

Hutch

Hi Hutch,

Actually mine are from 2010 and i' m pretty much sure they belonged to another fellow forumee.                             However, since the BMR leaf springs have been replaced, the dealer told me that some run in is required.

Anyway, with my last adjustments, run in or simply my brain, i have partially to revise some of my impression exposed above.

Now, especially the midrange seems sweeter and more " out of the box" with the mid bass  apparently less rumbling too. 

Early this morning i played a few tracks from " The Smiths" eponymous cd, either an early Rough Trade edition and a mid '90s Wea edition and boy, it has been a truly truly inspiring exprerience ! Morrisey's  voice really out of the box and generally  a realistic sense of scale. ( on Rough Trade edition, voice was  a little more vivid and alive perhaps)

I think that with another few tweaks, may be a bass trap and possibly a better amp, they should be pretty much perfect

Regards

Roberto

rsch posted:

Hutch posted:

Don't forget your S-600's will take a while to run in,particularly the BMR.  I have had mine on a 250 now for 2 months and they are still changing for the better.  Stepping up the power amp will make a difference, but I'd be inclined to check that after some more run in.

Hope you get to hear them singing, impressive speakers in my room.

Regards

Hutch

Hi Hutch,

Actually mine are from 2010 and i' m pretty much sure they belonged to another fellow forumee.                             However, since the BMR leaf springs have been replaced, the dealer told me that some run in is required.

Anyway, with my last adjustments, run in or simply my brain, i have partially to revise some of my impression exposed above.

Now, especially the midrange seems sweeter and more " out of the box" with the mid bass  apparently less rumbling too. 

Early this morning i played a few tracks from " The Smiths" eponymous cd, either an early Rough Trade edition and a mid '90s Wea edition and boy, it has been a truly truly inspiring exprerience ! Morrisey's  voice really out of the box and generally  a realistic sense of scale. ( on Rough Trade edition, voice was  a little more vivid and alive perhaps)

I think that with another few tweaks, may be a bass trap and possibly a better amp, they should be pretty much perfect

Regards

Roberto

 

 

Interesting developments Roberto...and a familiar sounding 'journey'.

G

rsch posted:

Hutch posted:

Don't forget your S-600's will take a while to run in,particularly the BMR. 

Hi Hutch,

Actually mine are from 2010 and i' m pretty much sure they belonged to another fellow forumee.                             However, since the BMR leaf springs have been replaced, the dealer told me that some run in is required......

Nothing like new shocks, to smooth out a musical journey. It's also nice to have an well informed Dealer!

Glade things are working out, Hutch may have hit the nail on the head, a bit more run-in time!

Enjoy your Music!

Allante93!

Almost forgot about the run in time for Ovator 600: 6-9 months in my case. Never had a Hifi product that took that long. Not even close. 

Today they live with my friend and his family, together with a Melco N1A-272-250DR-Super Lumina loop-Fraim. Sounds brutal. Absolutely brutal in that room. 

//Jonas

Jonas,

Do you mean it in a positive way or the opposite ?

Regards

Roberto

I can imagine with new BMR leaf springs the BMR will take a little time to settle and find its mojo.  Another issue to check after having your Ovator's in place for a few weeks is their stability on spikes, I did find a need to readjust mine and it made a very nice improvement.

Regards

Hutch

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Almost forgot about the run in time for Ovator 600: 6-9 months in my case. Never had a Hifi product that took that long. Not even close. 

Today they live with my friend and his family, together with a Melco N1A-272-250DR-Super Lumina loop-Fraim. Sounds brutal. Absolutely brutal in that room. 

//Jonas

Jonas what is wrong with the sound from your friends system? Can you describe what you mean by 'brutal'. Thanks

Simon

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Almost forgot about the run in time for Ovator 600: 6-9 months in my case. Never had a Hifi product that took that long. Not even close. 

Today they live with my friend and his family, together with a Melco N1A-272-250DR-Super Lumina loop-Fraim. Sounds brutal. Absolutely brutal in that room. 

//Jonas

I had them for 10 months....In the end they proved too tricky to integrate with my room using a 252/300. I spent more time tweaking than listening with any real pleasure.

The S400 on the other hand...

G

Sorry for the confusion. In Swedish, in that context, that would be something great. So, they sound very good...

GraemeH posted:

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Almost forgot about the run in time for Ovator 600: 6-9 months in my case. Never had a Hifi product that took that long. Not even close. 

Today they live with my friend and his family, together with a Melco N1A-272-250DR-Super Lumina loop-Fraim. Sounds brutal. Absolutely brutal in that room. 

//Jonas

I had them for 10 months....In the end they proved too tricky to integrate with my room using a 252/300. I spent more time tweaking than listening with any real pleasure.

The S400 on the other hand...

G

Very interesting, sounds like the upgraded version is a bit finicky!

Just goes to show, if one is fortunate enough to own speakers, that suits HIS taste, and HIS rooms environment, don't mess with the Speakers!

Beit, 400's, 600's, SL2, DBL,s, Briks,etc....

If you like it, Live with it!!!

Just tinker with the front end!

Source/Pre

Cdx2--+CD555

Ndx--+Nds

282--+552 or 252--+552

But, if you got some extra cash laying around and nothing else to spend it on, the SL Full Loom will do!!!!   LOL!!!!

Out!

Allante93!

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Sorry for the confusion. In Swedish, in that context, that would be something great. So, they sound very good...

I see - so you mean that they sounded sick 

@ Chris, exactly ������

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Sorry for the confusion. In Swedish, in that context, that would be something great. So, they sound very good...

I guessed that! 

Yesterday i finally pulled the trigger for a 2013 Nap 500, apparently is like new condition, the deal was so good that i couldn't resist  to grab such opportunity.

Regards

Roberto

rsch posted:

Jonas Olofsson posted:

Sorry for the confusion. In Swedish, in that context, that would be something great. So, they sound very good...

I guessed that! 

Yesterday i finally pulled the trigger for a 2013 Nap 500, apparently is like new condition, the deal was so good that i couldn't resist  to grab such opportunity.

Regards

Roberto

Repeat:

If one is fortunate enough to own speakers, that suits HIS taste, and HIS rooms environment, don't mess with the Speakers!

Beit, 400's, 600's, SL2, DBL,s, Briks,etc....

If you like it, Live with it!!!

And guess what, if you haven't had the opportunity to demo a shortlist proposed by the Forum, that's a good thing.

 As long as YOU are satisfied!

Enjoy the Music, the Why!

JMHO

Allante93!