Nac-N 272

Posted by: Garry on 04 July 2016

Hi everyone. I am thinking of upgrading my Nac 112x pre and getting a good quality Network Player...So logicaicaly I am going to audition a Nac-N 272 ...I was wondering about the quality of the pre section and how it will perform compared to the Nac 112x ..? Is this just a sideways step or is the pre as good as ' or near to a Nac 202 for example..?? Oh my power amp is a Nap 150x which I am more than pleased with in terms of power output. It has more than enough grunt for my living space..

Has anyone any comments on this ' guidence much appreciated...

 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by hungryhalibut

The 272 preamp is better than a 202, and miles better than a 112. It would be a great upgrade and would be fine with the 150. 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Mike-B

......... re the 150x;   I know someone who changed from 150 to 200 & was amazed by the change in sound quality - same volume same Guru 10 speakers but a real step change in definition.    

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Christopher_M

Garry, Please get some dems otherwise you are just adrift on the meaningless sea of forum opinion. Decide for yourself for instance, how good NDX into NAC202 and NAP150x is, when compared with N-272 and your NAP150x.

Regards, Chris

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by hungryhalibut

Bear in mind also that if you got a 202 you'd really need a napsc and a Hicap to get the best from it. Lots of boxes may be a good or a bad thing, depending on your point of view. 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Antonio1

Hi,dipends on where you want to land essentialy .

272 si a good product and surely a nice addition for streaming.

problem is if you want later to upgrade ,streamer,pre or both.it won't be possibile.also limited in  potential with one psu for both.

202 is a better pre ,and nd5xs a better streamer.it's not a mistery the y cost more as separates.I were you i'd buy the streamer and keep the rest for now.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by hungryhalibut

As Chris says above, listening is the only way to decide. As to the idea that the ND5xs and 202 are better than a 272, that's complete and utter codswallop, but then I would say that. 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Garry

Thanks everyone ..Will be auditioning the Nac N 272..

 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by rjstaines
Hungryhalibut posted:

As Chris says above, listening is the only way to decide. As to the idea that the ND5xs and 202 are better than a 272, that's complete and utter codswallop, but then I would say that. 

And I, for one, would completely agree with you, HH.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Christopher_M
Garry posted:

Thanks everyone ..Will be auditioning the Nac N 272..

Against what?

C.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Antonio1

Sorry to make such a hard statement to accept but 202 is much better with vinyl and nd5xs with it gives better results than 272.

you ll end up selling plenty of as soon a 372 is out, and so on until 572?, until box count fashion fades. 

112x has served so long, can the same be said of the Next big thing?

sorry but preamp is the heart of a good system,enough said if you know the Matter.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by gary yeowell

I wouldnt naturally assume the 272 is the way to go. Try the seperates and let your ears decide, and don't follow the hype.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by rjstaines

Don't lose sight of the fact that the 272 has both fixed and variable outputs, so it can feed either a power amp directly or it can feed a preamp (via the fixed line level output).   I have my 272 feeding a 552 preamp, for example, and very accomplished it sounds too.

The 272 (plus external power supply of your choice - XPS/555PS) would be a very versatile box that would be a cherished component of your system over quite a few power amp then preamp upgrades, I'm sure.

Roger

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Emre

I sold my ND5XS + NAC 202 + HıcapDR + Napsac in order to UPGRADE,....... and bought NAC 272 with TXPS, just month a go.

It is definitely an upgrade because i used both with NAP 200 for a while.

Now with NAP 300DR it sings.

 Definitely is a good pre because CD2X is sounding better than before, no idea about the analog part but i don't see why will be different than CD. I am planing to add a Project the Classic soon, LP12 is out of my league with all the upgrades , Naim dried me more than enough with upgrades and power supplies, super luminas etc. 

Also for the cost perspective 272 is the best VFM proposition from Naim in my opinion. 272/250DR/XPS is a relatively cost effective super star vs all other Naim Classic propositions.

I will sell 272 when(if) 372 comes out, if it will be a good product.

I think it will still be better value than NDS + 252, i guess it will be at NDS price point. if 572 comes out one day i will buy lottery tickets and pray a lot....

 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by badlands
Antonio1 posted:

 

you ll end up selling plenty of as soon a 372 is out, and so on until 572? 

 

 

Did I miss something????????

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Antonio1

i don t think at all a 272 bein better than 202,i use an lp12. Anyway this doesn t mean the former isn t a good product especially if you re just aftter streaming any format you come across.just demo.it is just i have a very diffrrent view on things

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Rob T

The N 272 is a formidable pre streaming device and is way better than the nac 202 for analogue duty's, in fact I would go as far as to say it edges closer to the nac 282 once you add the XPSDR or 555 external PS. I run the N-272 XPSDR with a 300DR and it is simply incredibly detailed and balanced.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by nitrous

Antonio, I do use an LP12 in to 272/XPS DR and to me it sounded much better than the 202/HiCap DR/npsc it replaced. 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Antonio1

Hi, to each his own, to me it's from 202 where thing get serious, and 282 great.

I May be biased but it s there I get really 'touched'. 

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by Antonio1
nitrous posted:

Antonio, I do use an LP12 in to 272/XPS DR and to me it sounded much better than the 202/HiCap DR/npsc it replaced. 

 

to you ,not not to me.i Still think it's a very,very bad idea.

Xps doesn T make of it what a bare doesn T.

would never see  myself  into than trap,luckily.

what s worst,matching it with a 300,it make s me laugh a lot.

Posted on: 04 July 2016 by hungryhalibut

All the OP can do is listen for him/herself and decide what's best for them.