There will always be something better - Chord Music

Like Dave says, that doesn't sound like Music at all. 

All my Music cables sounded great from day one and just become better after a while. Not like Sarum for an example (or Ovators, RIP).  

Music speaker cables are way a head of Sarum and I don't understand how Music could be to up front or bass heavy. Never seen that characteristic with Music. 

//Jonas

What are the technical differences between Sarum and Music cables?

Debs

It's a completely different shielding material Debs.  Not sure about the rest of it.

Insulation material is different, conductors seem to be the same but maybe some slight modification.

I also know Music got one more shield layer making it 3 in total. It is slightly thicker than Sarum because of that, which also makes it even stiffer thatn Sarum. I have compared the 2 in IRL and I own the Sarum speaker cable.

I use Interconnects Pulse R from Vertere Acoustics. 

It was not in my personal system I heard the Music, but we compared Sarum vs Music in my friends system.

The interconnects use  a new insulation material , Taylon , with extra / different outer layers for noise reduction.

I believe the Music speaker cable is manufactured the same as the interconnects , but also with an Aray system. Sarum did not have this.

Isn't Aray all about the connectors?  How does this work on speaker cable?

Those of us with more humble systems may want to try Witch Hat Audio's N2!  I tried this recently and could not believe the difference.  Coming from someone who thought this was something of a 'dark art' it really made me sit up and take notice.  Give it a try I think it is better than NAC 5 by a long chalk.

Cables can make a huge difference, it is sad that so many do not know this. Of course, some cables are too expensive for most, but buying used can be a bargain and transform your system. Pulse R is such a cable, it is very expensive but thanks to some friends we could buy together making the price much lower.

I audit the Sarum (RCA and the digital) and they were not my cup of coffee. I'm in the TQ house now and a happy bunny! Hope to get funding to buy TQ speaker cable as well some day...

Its all in the timing and delivery and TBH, nothing does it better than the Chord Music, listening to Gary Moore live, the timing is exquisite and the delivery is perfectly weighted but what grabs my attention is the sense of space and air that the music produces, especially on a live recording. I have never heard such 3d sound staging and the sense of presence that my system now produces.

Hi PB,

I am interested in your findings, do you mind sharing your system details and which Music interconnects you are using please?

Regards,

Richard

Hi Richard,

I have the 555/552/500 into ART Deco 20's.  Currently using Chord Music between the 555 and 552, with Vertere Pulse reference XLR's between 552 and 500 and good old Naim Naca between 500 and ART's,

Kind regards

PB

Thanks as I am a big fan of Gary Moore especially his live recordings, not forgetting Blues For Greenie, which always sound great on my system.

I have recently been playing him with SL DIN-XLRs so must try him with Chord Music.

He is sadly missed.

Richard

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

I have the boxed set of five live readings at the Montreux musical festival, a must for any Gary Moore fan.

I found the XLR"s were the biggest bottleneck in the system and had the biggest increase replacing the stock XLR's with the Vertere's. They really opened up the listening window, whereas the music improves on the flow, timing and sound staging. 

I have the Din - Din Musics rather than the RCA's.

Gary Moore, is sadly missed, he was a great live performer,

Kind regards

PB

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Sorry Dave, I am sure your SL's are up to the job of improving your impressive system 

KR

PB

FangfossFlyer posted:

I have recently been playing him with SL DIN-XLRs so must try him with Chord Music.

I would like to hear that  - on second thoughts  i perhaps I wouldn't as I have only recently gone for Sarum Super ARAY DIN-XLRs

I have heard the Music XLR's and they expand on what the Music IC does 

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Sorry Dave, I am sure your SL's are up to the job of improving your impressive system 

 

KR

 

PB

Yes, I'm very happy with the SL thing, and had compared it at home with the Chord Sarum, courtesy of my ever obliging dealer, finding in favour of the Naim offering.

It does make the system sing, it's just that I was halfway down the road to completing the SL loom, when bloomin' Chord Music made it's entrance.................Doh!

It seems to getting rave reviews from all those who've tried it, but I don't really want to risk a home trial!!!!

Regards,

Dave. 

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Wow, Vocabulary is increasing with leaps and bounds. 

Mistake, Blunder, Scottish Slang.

Before you guys beat me up, just saying, Remember the good old days when it was a 10% rule of thumb, on the amount one should spend on ICs, Cabling, etc... 

But anyhow, I thought it would be interesting just to note the Price correlation between the Msrp of Pre-Amps, and Amps, and 1 Chord Music IC! 

 The Sarum cables have been widely regarded as being some of the most musically transparent cables available.

ChordMusic (1m analogue RCA interconnect £3,800)

ChordMusic distils 30 years of cable design and construction knowhow into an extraordinary and musically revelatory product line. ChordMusic has been developed using an entirely new insulation material called Taylon®, which has never before implemented in audio cables. Taylon® is a phase-stable dielectric material and when combined with the unique Super ARAY conductor geometry, takes cable performance to a completely new level.

Where Sarum Tuned ARAY and then Super ARAY opened the window onto the performance, ChordMusic kicks the door down and lets you wander into an extraordinary musical landscape.

Originally Posted by Jonas Olofsson:

"I'm using Chord Sarum STA in my 500 system. It's better then SL, but you could always play the "different" card and choose SL instead of STA. 

Not the same story with Chord Music”

============================================================================

Statement ~ 57/49/49 ~ $157K  GBP  10% 15.7 K 

500 Series ~ 18.7/19.7 $ ~ 38.4 GBP  10% 3.84K 

Classic Series

252 ~ 10.3/7 ~ $17.3K GBP 10% $ 1,730 GBP * 300 amp

282/272/SN 2,  No need to continue this price list, I think we all get the point! 

=============================================================================

But if one has reached there End Game, even beat a Unitilite, and wants to improve his or her System, by all means, But don't forget the Law of Diminishing Returns! 

Paraphrasing Naim

Are SL Technologies were designed for the Statement, but equally at Home with our 500, and Classic Systems. 

Way back in the Fall of 2014, I Remember when it was common for Active 500 Series to be sporting Standard Naim ICs, and Nac A5, and all was well, with their 100K Systems! 

Just some thoughts!

Enjoy your Music, Chord Music! 

Allante93! 

dave marshall posted:

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Sorry Dave, I am sure your SL's are up to the job of improving your impressive system 

 

KR

 

PB

 

Yes, I'm very happy with the SL thing, and had compared it at home with the Chord Sarum, courtesy of my ever obliging dealer, finding in favour of the Naim offering.

It does make the system sing, it's just that I was halfway down the road to completing the SL loom, when bloomin' Chord Music made it's entrance.................Doh!

It seems to getting rave reviews from all those who've tried it, but I don't really want to risk a home trial!!!!

Regards,

Dave. 

 

I think you have gone so far down the SL route, you should continue Dave. I personally think it would be a mistake to change course now, even if the Music outperforms the Sarum and that's subjective of course,

KR

PB

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Sorry Dave, I am sure your SL's are up to the job of improving your impressive system 

 

KR

 

PB

 

Yes, I'm very happy with the SL thing, and had compared it at home with the Chord Sarum, courtesy of my ever obliging dealer, finding in favour of the Naim offering.

It does make the system sing, it's just that I was halfway down the road to completing the SL loom, when bloomin' Chord Music made it's entrance.................Doh!

It seems to getting rave reviews from all those who've tried it, but I don't really want to risk a home trial!!!!

Regards,

Dave. 

 

I think you have gone so far down the SL route, you should continue Dave. I personally think it would be a mistake to change course now, even if the Music outperforms the Sarum and that's subjective of course,

 

KR

 

PB

Phew! 

dave marshall posted:

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Polarbear posted:

dave marshall posted:

Hi Mr. Bear,

Don't suppose you want to consider doing short term swaps with those of us with the full SL loom, just to see if we might have made an expensive faux pas?

No, didn't think so. 

Aw ra best,

Dave.

Sorry Dave, I am sure your SL's are up to the job of improving your impressive system 

 

KR

 

PB

 

Yes, I'm very happy with the SL thing, and had compared it at home with the Chord Sarum, courtesy of my ever obliging dealer, finding in favour of the Naim offering.

It does make the system sing, it's just that I was halfway down the road to completing the SL loom, when bloomin' Chord Music made it's entrance.................Doh!

It seems to getting rave reviews from all those who've tried it, but I don't really want to risk a home trial!!!!

Regards,

Dave. 

 

I think you have gone so far down the SL route, you should continue Dave. I personally think it would be a mistake to change course now, even if the Music outperforms the Sarum and that's subjective of course,

 

KR

 

PB

Phew! 

Go and spend it more music Dave :-)

Jonas Olofsson posted:

With my 500-Titans-Melco-Sonority system, upgrades now are serious expensive. Of course it's fantastic as it is, but what if you want more performance?

 

Ever think of the MusicLine Powerigel Plus for your system, from a power cable perspective ?

It is definitely a step up the Naim ladder.

...and happy birthday for tomorrow :-)