250 DR Lead Time

I asked my dealer this week, 5 weeks was the answer

That's another fine mess you've gotten me in to (not you personally), seems to kick in to touch the idea of dropping one of these in for NAP 200 second week of August. I know they keep stock of the base models but guess they have to keep tighter control of inventory going higher up the range 

My 250dr was installed just over a month ago and was on order for ten weeks but at that time they did have a component supply problem. I was told at the time of ordering it would be 3 to 4 weeks so 5 weeks seem to be about right.

Regardless of delivery time I can assure the wait is worth it it is a stunning amplifier.

I waited 6 weeks for mine.................................but it was worth it

I'd heard it was a problem with the transformers due to changes at the supplier. Thinking of getting mine upgraded to DR spec along with a service. Anyone know the current waiting time for this?

I waited 10 weeks for Naim to issue the RMA for my serial number. The unit was at Naim for over 5 weeks. 

I should add that plus the few days either side where you send it to a dealer, they send it to naim and then it travels the same route back to you can easily add another 2 weeks to whole process. All in all, I was without amp for 8 weeks. 

According to your profile you have a NAP 200 now. So it seems to me, that you are looking for a new 250DR and got the lead times for the 250.2 to DR upgrade.

Mulberry posted:

According to your profile you have a NAP 200 now. So it seems to me, that you are looking for a new 250DR and got the lead times for the 250.2 to DR upgrade.

Excellent logic Mulberry. If the OP is in fact wanting to know the lead time on a new 250DR, who can say. Dealers may even have stock or new demo units and so on. Your best bet is to ask your dealer this question rather than the forum. They might say "well we happen to have a new one right here for you"

Guess I could have made it clearer I meant new 250 DR. Surprised to hear this is a question apparently not worthy of the forum, you might answer "who can say" to many things raised on here 

Mine took 8 weeks. Arrives tomorrow. 

Having said that, if they have resolved the component issue (apparently they sent back a whole batch of whatever component it was) then hopefully the lead time should drop back to the more typical 4-5 weeks. My Snaxo 362 took 5 weeks.

It's definitely worth the wait though.

I just found an article on Creative Audio which was waxing lyrical about the NAP 250 DR. It may be worth a read for those who have not seen this. Hopefully the benefits or improvements with the 250 DR will ameliorate the ill effects that Feeling_Zen is facing with the upgrade of his NAP 250 to the DR status.

Feeling_Zen - I am sorry to hear about your case. I presume nothing can be done to reverse the action and as such, I hope this is a one-off experience for you.

Naim's legendary amp is given a 21st Century update!

The new NAP 250 DR shouldn't really be called a 250 at all - it is a totally different design from the old NAP 250, Naim's founding amplifier, which first hit the streets over 40 years ago. However, Naim wanted to retain the much-loved model number of the old favourite and we're not going to knock them for that, because for many of us in the industry, the NAP250 was our first ever 'serious;' Hi-Fi amplifier - the amplifier that began our love affair with the black boxes from Salisbury.

However, the truth of the matter is that even old-school audiophiles like ourselves would have to admit that everything about the new NAP250 DR is streets ahead of even the very best 250s from the past. There is circuitry inside this particular box of black magic from Salisbury that couldn't even have been dreamed about all those years ago. For a start, the new 250 uses the same 009 transistors that are found in Naim's flagship £155,000 Statement amplifier (no, that price is not a misprint!). Along with a myriad of other internal improvements, the 250 DR also boasts an impressive (and very heavy!) new toroidal transformer, plus the all-important new DR ultra-low noise power supply circuitry, also derived from research work done during the development of Statement. I could quote some amazing techno-facts to you - like the amp's 400 VA transient ability, but to some extent that would be irrelevant, because all that really matters here is just how big an improvement the 250 DR makes when introduced into virtually any Naim system from the past.

I'll try to put it into words; imagine someone is holding a photo of a crowd of people in front of your face, but the person holding the photo can't stand still, so the photo is waving about too much for you to be able to focus on it properly. You can see it's quite a nice photo  with a lot of  people in it, that all the people are different sizes and are wearing different clothes, but you can't really make out any of the detail, or get any idea of why the photo was taken in the first place. Now imagine that the person holding the photo has stopped waving it about and instead is holding it absolutely rock solid still, with no movement at all. Now when you look at the photo again, you can see everything - and in the finest detail. What was just a blur before is now pin sharp, showing you parts of the photo that you didn't even know existed before, revealing the structure of the composition, giving you an idea of what the photographer had in his mind, when he took that particular shot. That's what the 250 DR will do to every single track in your music collection - make everything you've experienced before just seem like a blur in comparison. Complex passages, that previously were hard to follow (and enjoy!) will now make much more sense, revealing, with far more clarity, the 'purpose' behind the music. For the first time ever, exquisite detail that was previously 'hidden in the shadow' will reveal itself, taking the spell bound listener on a completely new voyage through music he thought he knew inside out (but didn't!).

If you want to know what all your favourite tracks really sound like, you simply must hear the new NAP 250 DR. Partner it with Naim's new 21st Century 272 streaming preamp and you have a match made in heaven that will delight and enthral you - just like your first ever Naim system did, all those years ago!

Calum F posted:

Guess I could have made it clearer I meant new 250 DR. Surprised to hear this is a question apparently not worthy of the forum, you might answer "who can say" to many things raised on here 

It's not that the question isn't worthy. I just don't think you can get an accurate answer for that question here. It's a bit of a 'how long is a piece of string' scenario. The answer is going to depend on many factors such as country, your dealer, whether they already have one, or do they have them expected to come in, do they need to order one for you and if so, from Naim or a distributor?

How long it takes others may not have any relevance. But your dealer can probably answer outright. Maybe it takes 5 to 8 weeks like others here but maybe you get a totally diffetent answer.

Calum F posted:

Guess I could have made it clearer I meant new 250 DR. Surprised to hear this is a question apparently not worthy of the forum, you might answer "who can say" to many things raised on here 

Absolutely worthwhile question to ask on the forum... It's what it is here for... People's current experiences count for a lot.. Your local Naim retailer might not have ordered a 250DR recently.. and/or you might not want to ask a retailer yet. 

So far by skipping through the above we have a dealer saying 5 weeks, and recent customers saying 6 to 10 weeks. Take your pick, and I seem to remember there is the summer factory shutdown looming as well.

Mine took about 3.5 weeks or so. I booked it in via Cymbiosis in the usual way, I shipped it to the factory directly (with the correct RMA number etc in place). Factory queried whether I wanted to add a service to the DR upgrade, which I did. Came back to me from the factory via cymbiosis, and I paid cymbiosis for the work. 

Its had about a month of running in. I ought to try to find the time to listen to it now lol!

(edited once I had actually checked the time taken -- quicker than I remembered!)

To clarify, that was 3.5 weeks to do the work. I booked it in for DR'ing months ago. I dont know what the waiting time is to get to the front of the queue (some time, I suspect, given the backlog?) but the work takes some weeks.

I've just had a call from the dealer saying Naim have caught up on DR upgrades to 250.2s (but nothing else) and they can start next Monday!

(I gave my serial number to the dealer to join the queue about 10 days ago. The turnaround is expected to be "a couple of weeks".)

Sounds hopefully - I'm just about to arrange mine