Powerline alternatives

Posted by: Belfast Taxman on 25 August 2016

I am looking to upgrade on the cheap. Sometimes this can be done, such as my last "upgrade" which was a pair of socks in the rear ports of my Neat Momentums which resulted in a smoother bottom end not otherwise achievable given the comparatively small size of my sonic temple by simply moving the speakers further from walls.

Anyway, I am now looking at my mains connectors, currently the ones supplied by Naim, or Linn. The Powerline looks wonderful but at over £500 a throw, purchase would seriously damage my Power Supply upgrade fund. So, looking for cheaper alternatives. A friend has suggested Isotek EVO3 Initiums - anyone tried these or other suggestions?  I need to connect Lingo, Olive Hi-cap, 272/250 and Cdx2 and the Isoteks would cost around £300 in total - clearly a small fraction of 5 Powerlines!

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by Gavin B

A (Grahams) Hydra?

What do you current plug your mains leads into? Wall sockets or a power strip? 

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by Finkfan

I can highly recommend Tellurium Q ultra blue. Fantastic sounding cable. Ok, it may be a little pricey, but that's because it works. It also costs less than a Powerline. TQ also do an entry level mains cable, the 'blue', which is a better price. Not heard that one though.  

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by yeti42

Just use the Naim supplied ones and let the funds grow.

272 and a CDX2? Which came first and will they both stay?

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by hungryhalibut

You should install a dedicated mains supply before even thinking about posh mains cables. connect them all, apart from the Lingo, with a Grahams hydra. 

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

What the greedy fish said.  

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by badlands

To be completely honest, you really don't need a dedicated mains supply to realize the benefits of after market power cords. They do make a difference, and the ones I have tried are extra good.

The Atlas Eos power cords, three versions, I liked them better than the stock Naim cable and the Nordost alternatives and thought it was at the very least equal to the Powerline.

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by Adam Zielinski

I would suggest you just stick to regular Naim-supplied mains leds. And spend the £300 you have on some good music - this should bring more fun/pound 

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by MDS

Sound advice from Adam there

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by nigelb

I have one Powerline and the others are Supra LoRads. The main reason to use LoRads was when I was on a quest to minimise noise in my system and they 'seem' to work well, I think sounding better than stock cables. My use of the words 'seem' and 'think' should tip you off that no serious A/B testing has gone on, but at £50, the LoRads are a low cost option you might want to consider.

Where I did hear a definite improvement is when I moved from a Grahams Hydra to a Wireworld Matrix 2 power strip with a Powerline connecting it to the wall and LoRads from black boxes to the Wireworld. I have no idea if this is optimal, but I was happy with the improvement and really can't be ar*ed to experiment with different arrangements. I suspect that fully Powerlining will give an appreciable improvement but continuing towards a full SL loom is more of a priority for me at the moment.

I also suspect that a dedicated mains supply should also be a priority but with a house move looming this would not make sense for me.

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by nigelb

I should have added that I have since moved the Powerline from wall to Matrix to wall direct to 250DR and a LoRad now connects the Matrix to another wall socket. It does sound better this way.

Now there will be a few of you who would suggest I get out, enjoy the sunshine and breathe in some fresh air instead of piddling around with mains cables - and I would have to agree with that sentiment!

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by Huge

Just so long as you don't piddle ON the mains cables!    

Posted on: 25 August 2016 by Belfast Taxman

Thank you for all the responses so far. When I moved my system into a new bigger room to accommodate the switch from Kan's to Neat Momentum's, I was obliged to incorporate a power strip (Wireworld Matrix). I do keep the Lingo powered direct to the only other mains socket.

As for Gavin's query about having both a 272 and a cdp, well I like both and intend to keep them. I use the analogue output on the cdp - I'm just not a digital kind of bloke. I have over 600 cd's and I have no inclination to rip and store them. Apart from the pre-amp functionality, my primary use of the 272 is Tidal and Internet radio. Underuse of capacity maybe but that and the Linn keep me happy.

has no-one tried the Isoteks. The ones I refer to are pretty much bottom of the range, so perhaps not worth the outlay above the mains leads provided by Naim. Are the latter somehow different from what you would buy on the high street?

Posted on: 26 August 2016 by nigelb
Huge posted:

Just so long as you don't piddle ON the mains cables!    

Considering your warning, that is the most appropriate use on the exploding sausage emoji I have seen in this fine forum.

I shall heed you cautionary advice.