Missing Rubber Soul

Posted by: David O'Higgins on 27 August 2016

I installed minimserver on my Qnap NAS. Previously I was using Nserve to select and stream and there were numerous anomalies and missing artwork etc. Minimserver does a much better job and there is no missing artwork now, but.......when I went to select my 24 bit Rubber Soul under Minimserver, it wasn't there! I can see it, and play it, via Nserve, but not via Minimserver.

So far, I have not found any other instance of this, but with 400+ 24 bit recordings, it is possible there are others?

Any thoughts?

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Most likely an issue with metadata on the files.

Can you try the following: go to the root level of the Minimserver (via yoru streamer), find 'folder view'. Select that and see if you can find the Rubber Soul inside the The Beatles folder.

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by David O'Higgins

Yes Adam, it's in the folder view.

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by Adam Zielinski
David O'Higgins posted:

Yes Adam, it's in the folder view.

If you can see it here and play it from that folder, but you cannot 'see' it via artist or genre view, I suspect the files for that particular album are not tagged correctly (metadata is incorrect).

If you have any software on your computer (even iTunes) you could take the files from the server, re-tag them correctly, and re-load them on your NAS.

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by David O'Higgins

Thanks Adam.

Using Mp3tag I discovered that there was almost no metadata in the Rubber Soul folder. Artist, Album name and track name info was absent. Have fixed it, and will delete it from NAS and replace it. 

Begs the question as to how it appears in Nserve?  Also, is there any quick way to discover whether there are any others similarly affected?

 

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Dave - I noticed you have a UnitiServe. Anything ripped by US will not really have any metadata embeded into the WAV files. Minimserver will not 'see' those files except for a 'folder view'.

If you want to check what has 'proper' tags have a look at how many artists / albums Minimserver recognises. That can be seen at a fist screen of a NAIM app.

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by hafler3o
David O'Higgins posted:
 

Begs the question as to how it appears in Nserve?  Also, is there any quick way to discover whether there are any others similarly affected?

 

If metadata for fields is 'missing' or corrupt my NAS will display 'Unknown' for any particular library view (say Trackname or Year etc) so I monitor that from time to time. Obviously this won't catch incorrectly named tracks or other duff but present metadata. Checking a day's worth of uploads to my NAS as I incrementally build the music library is a good way round this. I never trust metadata and inspect everything before archiving. That's just me though!

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by David O'Higgins
Adam Zielinski posted:

Dave - I noticed you have a UnitiServe. Anything ripped by US will not really have any metadata embeded into the WAV files. Minimserver will not 'see' those files except for a 'folder view'.

If you want to check what has 'proper' tags have a look at how many artists / albums Minimserver recognises. That can be seen at a fist screen of a NAIM app.

Adam, I am concerned here only with a FLAC 24 bit file which has gone a bit AWOL, which has nothing to do with Unitiserve. 

And my question still stands. Is there any way to generate e.g. a .csv file of the contents of a music library? That would be a really useful tool to focus in on where there may be a problem, instead of having to do a Sherlock Holmes job before letting anything in. Life's too short for ðetailed metadata checking before archiving. 

My threehapence,

David

 

 

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Dave - what I was trying to write is that Minimserver will identify all the files that are tagged correctly and will display them. Anything that is "messed up" will be the difference between the total album coundt and correctly identified albums. Minimserver allocates a special folder for untagged files.

Look for the [untagged] folder.

Posted on: 27 August 2016 by Erich

If you mean a list of files in a folder use File List Export (MAC).

Posted on: 28 August 2016 by David O'Higgins

The good news is that I have nothing in the 'untagged' folder.

Thanks to all responders.