Naim 272 250DR XPS DR vs 125k of superlative separates -

Posted by: redalphabet on 29 August 2016

Yesterday I had the absolute pleasure of system shopping. The Nagra HD dac $30k into a solution 530 amplifier $55k and the new Magico s5 MK2 speakers $38k a pair. I listened to some classical, vocal, jazz, dance ALT J, James Blake, etc etc.

The room was very well treated and everything was racked - cables were analysis plus oval 8's

The streamer was the Aurender N10 8k

The highs were so sweet and delicate. The music hung in the air effortlessly before me - the Nagra HD dac has extremely good bass and image height - its focuses the soundstage rather than widens it to compared let's say the MSB Dac 5. When I played Jazz and Memphis blues my partner - also in the dem, I could tell looked, a bit flat. Same so with the dance music listed above -  I noticed in the rack the 272, 250DR and the XPS DR and promptly asked the dealer to put in NACA 5 and play the Naim system through the Magicos

AND BLOW ME DOWN!

NAIM DOES IT AGAIN! 

It's perhaps time  - owners of the Nac 52 and Nap 135's start looking around and shopping. Naim may have finally succeeded in producing the classic sound at a classic price. 

Would it have sounded even better with the 300DR and a 555ps sure - but it wasn't necessary. This 3 box system is a one and done!

 

 

Posted on: 31 August 2016 by rightcoastants

I agree that the 272 punches above its weight and I'm also quite pleased with how my 272, 200DR and XPS DR makes music paired with my Kudos Super 10s. Have had this setup since last fall and perhaps its the recent cable dressing and weekly dusting but over the last few weeks, it has been a real treat to listen to music.  I do not feel any immediate need to look any further.

Posted on: 31 August 2016 by mpw

HH

Good luck and as a few others have mentioned - take it slow and give your body the time it needs to recover.

regards

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Ears

Best wishes for your speedy recovery HH.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by joerand
rightcoastants posted:

I agree that the 272 punches above its weight

What specifically does it mean when an audio component "punches above its weight"? Sounds like a statement more appropriate for the boxing ring.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by hungryhalibut

I'd say that it means that the box sounds better than you'd expect it to, given its price bracket. Now, having spoken to the DVLA, I must surrender my driving licence for six months because of having a seizure. At least Hilary and I won't need to decide who drives home after a night out. That said, it seems incredibly unfair to have a fractured skull, pain all over the place, an ear that no longer works, time off work that will lose me money, and not be able to drive for six months, all because I was unfortunate enough to be hit by some fool who should not have been driving because his eyesight wasn't up to it. Ah well.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Michael_B.

It's not going to get your hearing back, but shouldn't you be able to claim off their insurance?

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

Nigel - nightmare scenario - does the fact that he failed his eyesight test invalidate his insurance?

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by oscarskeeper
The Strat (Fender) posted:

Nigel - nightmare scenario - does the fact that he failed his eyesight test invalidate his insurance?

No, not in the sense that I think you mean - i.e. that the insurer would not be obliged to respond to a claim against him.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by oscarskeeper
Hungryhalibut posted:

I'd say that it means that the box sounds better than you'd expect it to, given its price bracket. Now, having spoken to the DVLA, I must surrender my driving licence for six months because of having a seizure. At least Hilary and I won't need to decide who drives home after a night out. That said, it seems incredibly unfair to have a fractured skull, pain all over the place, an ear that no longer works, time off work that will lose me money, and not be able to drive for six months, all because I was unfortunate enough to be hit by some fool who should not have been driving because his eyesight wasn't up to it. Ah well.

All of those financial losses to which you refer are capable of forming part of a claim against him - keep all your receipts! Little comfort given your sorry accident, but you should at least not be out of pocket.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by stuart

All the best HH, 

Take it easy 

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Pcd
I think you'll find that the third party is always covered but the insured
might have to pay for his own damage.
Posted on: 01 September 2016 by nickpeacock
oscarskeeper posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

I'd say that it means that the box sounds better than you'd expect it to, given its price bracket. Now, having spoken to the DVLA, I must surrender my driving licence for six months because of having a seizure. At least Hilary and I won't need to decide who drives home after a night out. That said, it seems incredibly unfair to have a fractured skull, pain all over the place, an ear that no longer works, time off work that will lose me money, and not be able to drive for six months, all because I was unfortunate enough to be hit by some fool who should not have been driving because his eyesight wasn't up to it. Ah well.

All of those financial losses to which you refer are capable of forming part of a claim against him - keep all your receipts! Little comfort given your sorry accident, but you should at least not be out of pocket.

HH - you have a claim for damages for personal injuries, which can include damages for the injuries you suffered as well as any out-of-pocket expenses (including any loss of earnings, travel costs, any care and assistance needed, etc). If there is any way of sending private messages on this forum and you need pointing in the right direction, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Huge

You also have a claim for "pain and suffering" as well as for the physical injuries.

On the other hand you have a duty to mitigate your claim: i.e. restrict your claim to a value that can be reasonably expected in the circumstances; not seeking to profit from the accident nor seeking inordinately expensive ways to handle the resulting problems.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Bob Edwards

HH - A pity you're not in the US - I could potentially refer you to a number of highly qualified attorneys in the field. 

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Blue Bottle

HH

Shocked to hear your news, best of luck.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

I've been hit a few times on a bike, but nothing as bad as your accident Nigel. The important thing is to get back to cycling as soon as you can. If you're out of action for while, I do hope that music will be there for you in one form or another, as music and movement are really two ends of the same stick. 

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Jan

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by hungryhalibut

Thanks everyone, your kind words are immensely helpful. We have sent the necessary form to the legal support people and hopefully will hear something soon. I'm certainly keen to get a new bike, especially as I cannot drive for at least six months, though the thought of cycling is rather odd - at the moment sleeping is about the only thing I can do effectively. 

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

I gave up on road cycling and now enjoy mountain biking - far away from cars. According to mapmyride dot com, there are some decent trails near Emsworth.

Jan

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Pcd
HH, good move contacting the legal people they should be invaluable in this
instance, I don't know who you work for but if they have a good HR
department they can also be very helpful particularity when planning your
return to work.

All the best.

Regards

Pete
Posted on: 01 September 2016 by nickpeacock
Hungryhalibut posted:

Thanks everyone, your kind words are immensely helpful. We have sent the necessary form to the legal support people and hopefully will hear something soon. I'm certainly keen to get a new bike, especially as I cannot drive for at least six months, though the thought of cycling is rather odd - at the moment sleeping is about the only thing I can do effectively. 

HH - you may be surprised to learn how much your potential claim for damages for Pain, Suffering and Loss of Amenity (in legal speak "PSLA", what I referred to earlier as damages for your injuries) may be - don't sign off on any compensation/recovery without getting some sensible legal advice on this please. [It happens to - sort of - be my area but I am expressly not going to give you advice; head injury claims need specialist legal input, depending on how serious they are.]

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by David Hendon
Hungryhalibut posted:

Thanks everyone, your kind words are immensely helpful. We have sent the necessary form to the legal support people and hopefully will hear something soon. I'm certainly keen to get a new bike, especially as I cannot drive for at least six months, though the thought of cycling is rather odd - at the moment sleeping is about the only thing I can do effectively. 

Sleeping is the best thing to do and judging by what a friend found when he hit a pothole, coming off his bike and hitting his head on the ground hard enough to break his helmet, it was six months before he could even contemplate coming back to work part-time. He slept many hours a day as well as through the night. He is fine now though.

So I suggest just give in to the sleep for as long as that seems an attractive thing to do.

best

David

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Huge
nickpeacock posted:

...

don't sign off on any compensation/recovery without getting some sensible legal advice on this please.

...

Exceptionally good advice.

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Dr_J

HH, only just seen this thread. 

Wishing you a speedy recovery, take your time and take it easy and I look forward to reading you're back to yourself again soon.

Best wishes,

KR, J

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Jay

HH, sorry to read about your accident mate. Wishing you a fast recovery.

Jay

Posted on: 01 September 2016 by Arnsider

I'm another just catching up on the forum.....Would like to add my wishes for a speedy recovery HH and hopefully a good blast from those SL2's will sort that ear out in no time....