Getting double albums to play in the right order; getting compilations to play in the right order

It's the metadata that the superuniti parses, if the metadata has headed off to the pub for a few beers the superuniti will indeed seem to be drunk itself. 

A little bit of searching on the forum about metadata and metadata editors should enable you to find a solution to the inebriation. 

SJB 

If you have filed both downloads into one folder, then it's mixed up - two track 1's two track 2's etc.      You need to load them into separate folders - Disc-1 & Disc-2.   Or if you do really want them both in one album folder you will need to edit the metadata & change the track numbers on disc-2 to be consecutive to disc-1 & change the track sequencing in the metadata from 1/12, 2/12 (etc) in disc-1 & 1/19. 2/19 in disc-2 to 1/31, 2/31, 3/31 etc.........etc in the combined disc folder        

You need to tell us what UPnP server you use if you want help...

The simplest solution is to rename the tracks 1..15 then 16..30 for the second disc.

With a decent UPnP player you need to make sure there is a Discnumber tag with the value 1 and 2 as relevant.

In the metadata, make sure disc 1 is marked as 1/1 and disc 2 as 2/2. You can also change the album titles by adding disc 1 or 2 to each track. The tracks can then be simply numbered 1/12, 2/12 etc. Or you can make both discs into one album and number the tracks 1/24 to 24/24. There should be a compilation tick box that will solve various artist albums. 

There really does need to be a sticky FAQ for this.

Eloise posted:

You need to tell us what UPnP server you use if you want help...

The simplest solution is to rename the tracks 1..15 then 16..30 for the second disc.

With a decent UPnP player you need to make sure there is a Discnumber tag with the value 1 and 2 as relevant.

Sorry - should have said. It is a Unitiserv (2TB hard disk).

A couple of things you probably already know, but just to be sure:

Downloads need to be edited on your computer before you transfer them to the Unitiserve. Then put them in the US Downloads folder, separate from any CD rips you have.

I haven't had issues with tracks listed in the wrong order, but I've never bought downloads from Qobuz. I'm pretty sure if you edit them as per Mike and HH's suggestions above, you should be OK.

For albums on 2 or more discs, I can never be bothered to merge them. It's easy to add albums or individual tracks to a play queue in any order you want on the Naim app, so I just do that.

Zippy, you could just delete the 'crap' tracks.

Seriously though, there is a problem here. I too bought the deluxe version from Qobuz and copied it to my NAS. If I look at it under Nserve, it exhibits the track order problem, but under Minimserve, which I normally use now, the tracks are in the right order. My experience is that Minimserve solves a lot of problems where Nserve would have you struggling to edit metadata. But I presume that Minimserve cannot be installed on the Superuniti?

UServe owners - Does the UnitiServe recognize the 'compilation' tag?  From when I owned one, I think that the answer is "no."

OP - the problem definitely is the tagging (metadata).  You'll want to fix it by putting a copy of this disc on your computer, deleting it from the UServe's Downloads folder, using a proper metadata editor program to get the tags right, and then copying over the fixed files to the Downloads folder.

HungryHallibut already gave you the options for how to re-tag.  What I have done in the past when I owned a UServe was to:

1.  Keep as 2 different cd's but put CD1 in the title of the first, and CD2 in the title of the second.  They will show up in the Naim App as 2 cd's. Or...

2.  Make one big CD out of it, with just one title, and renumbering the tracks as 1-24 instead of 1-12 and 1-12.

I do disagree with something Mike-B wrote -- the actual file names are irrelevant, and you CAN put them all in the same folder.  The metadata tags rule the day for what the server shows to the Naim App, and if the tags are fixed the file names and folder contents is irrelevant.  With the proviso that you should have the album art, named folder.jpg, in the folder with the file(s).  If you have 2 folders (1 for each cd) then you need a folder.jpg in each.

I hope that this helps more than confuses,

Bart

Thanks for all the help. The files were tagged and named fine, but the Naim was ignoring it. It would have worked absolutely fine with my squeezebox, I imagine. In the end, I changed the name of the album for the CD2 tracks and that did the trick. CD2 isn't actually that bad as well, so I am happy.

The key was to make the changes when the file was stored on my laptop, which somebody advise above. I had never tried that before, as all the metadata editing I had done was to tracks already in the Unitiserv downloads folder, and had little effect.

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

The key was to make the changes when the file was stored on my laptop, which somebody advise above. I had never tried that before, as all the metadata editing I had done was to tracks already in the Unitiserv downloads folder, and had little effect. 

This could well be the source of your problems. Downloads should be edited on your computer before you transfer them to the Unitiseve, as well as copied to a backup, as the US automatic backup only works for CD rips. 

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

Thanks for all the help. The files were tagged and named fine, but the Naim was ignoring it. It would have worked absolutely fine with my squeezebox, I imagine. In the end, I changed the name of the album for the CD2 tracks and that did the trick. CD2 isn't actually that bad as well, so I am happy.

The key was to make the changes when the file was stored on my laptop, which somebody advise above. I had never tried that before, as all the metadata editing I had done was to tracks already in the Unitiserv downloads folder, and had little effect. 

The edits would eventually take effect when the UServe rescanned itself.  Far easier / more efficient to do it on the computer however!

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

- First I make sure that I organise the disc into the same sub folder of the album folder and they should be name in ascending order (ie CD01, CD02 or Disc1, Disc2):

Example:

- All tracks within the same folder should be indexed in the matadata from 01 to NN where NN is the last track.

- Finally, I ensure that all tracks in all the different disc folders be tagged as the SAME Ablum (for example "The Red Album 1962-1966 (Japan SHM-CD) 2CDs"

engjoo posted:

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

 

I'm 99% sure that the UnitiServe, which the OP owns, does not work that way.

Bart posted:

engjoo posted:

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

 

I'm 99% sure that the UnitiServe, which the OP owns, does not work that way.

I am as well. All I got was sarcasm when I asked Naim's support how it did work.

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

Bart posted:

engjoo posted:

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

 

I'm 99% sure that the UnitiServe, which the OP owns, does not work that way.

I am as well. All I got was sarcasm when I asked Naim's support how it did work.

Sarcasm from who? Naim support have been great; I would certainly be surprised if you got sarcasm from a Naim employee.

Bart posted:

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

Bart posted:

engjoo posted:

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

 

I'm 99% sure that the UnitiServe, which the OP owns, does not work that way.

I am as well. All I got was sarcasm when I asked Naim's support how it did work.

Sarcasm from who? Naim support have been great; I would certainly be surprised if you got sarcasm from a Naim employee.

 

Derision then rather than sarcasm?

Q What is the secret to tagging my songs?

A There is no "secret". You just tag them correctly.

I can see where Naim are coming from, as there really is no secret. The trouble is, it's not so easy to get it right with a UnitiServe. The best thing I did was sell mine and use a nas, but when I first started streaming I was too scared to use one. With Asset or Minimserver, it's all much more controllable. 99% of albums are fine, but there will always be some where the metadata is away with the fairies, and there have been a couple that I've spent hours working out what to do. But once you've learned, it's much easier the next time, as there are only so many things that can go wrong. 

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

Bart posted:

ZippyBungleJeffreyArcher posted:

Bart posted:

engjoo posted:

I am using Synology Media Server and here is how I get music of multiple disc alnum playing in the right order:

 

I'm 99% sure that the UnitiServe, which the OP owns, does not work that way.

I am as well. All I got was sarcasm when I asked Naim's support how it did work.

Sarcasm from who? Naim support have been great; I would certainly be surprised if you got sarcasm from a Naim employee.

 

Derision then rather than sarcasm?

Q What is the secret to tagging my songs?

A There is no "secret". You just tag them correctly.

I dont know who you corresponded with, and I'm not just going to blindly defend.  But if I needed help with this, I'd have asked differently.  As in, "Dear Naim Support.  I am having difficulty with multiple-cd sets, and I think it may be that I don't understand how to tag them.  Is this something you can help me with? "