Opportunities presented by Brexit

winkyincanada posted:

Eloise posted:

Don Atkinson posted:

I suppose there will also be increased opportunities for those interested in a career in Border Control, assuming we go for the "Hard" Brexit option.

Perhaps, but likely to be underfunded and G4S will end up getting visas for Romainians and Poles in to work at minimum wage policing the U.K. borders...

What is your point, exactly?

My point is that the inequalities in the UK are not caused by the EU and being members of the EU and that the policies which lead to such inequality are those of our current and past governments.  Those policies will continue regardless of "Brexit" and companies such as G4S who are more and more getting contracts to run the UKs essential services will always find the way to get the cheapest labour ... likely even getting around "closed" borders as there was always going to be the ability to employ those outside the U.K. where suitable staff are not available in the U.K.

I read an article in the Guardian last week saying that business is booming for consultants being employed by firms concerned about how to mitigate the risks arising from Brexit, and that the salaries offered were rising accordingly. 

Of course, were it not for Brexit the firms would not need to waste money on these consultants in the first place, but for the consultants themselves, happy days. 

Plenty of opportunities for the many thousands of UK citizens living in the EU to come back to the UK, not just because of reduced EU assistance but more likely much reduced sterling income worth - thus putting more pressure on housing in exactly the way that Leave voters didn't want. Conversely, most of the recent immigrants to this country will be staying.

That helped then!

Allante93 posted:

PeterJ posted:

What is crucial is whether we can cut trade deals with other nations faster and better than EU is able to do (with many different nations all having different vested interests).

The devaluation of GBP to a more competitive level will help us.

Being further away from banking problems in EU will also help.

 

I know you guys get a better feel of the situation, but from across the pond, I'm getting the following from the Media:

Soon to be, the 3 most powerful women in the world, are not supporting the Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, and Hillary, now throw in Hollande, and we got Germany, France, Britain, and the US.

Furthermore, the largest Bank in Germany, has taken a hit, and Merkel isn't supporting a bailout. 

And this Yanis guy, is saying don't drink the Kool-Aid, Troika is a bit like Sausage, if you knew it's make-up, you wouldn't touch it.

From the people's perspective, no one likes the Media shoving something down your throat.

 Grexit, Brexit, or Frexit!......

Could Anyone, give me a better insight of what's going on, sometimes one can't depend on the Media.

Thanks in Advance!

Allante93!

Wow, Headlines, the Brexit could cost the Banks 51 Billion!

Allante93!

Allante93 posted:

And this Yanis guy, is saying don't drink the Kool-Aid, Troika is a bit like Sausage, if you knew it's make-up, you wouldn't touch it.

That Yannis guy is Greek. Greeks invented democracy and were also the first who invented how to kill democracy: by giving too much power to the people.

He is doing the same and the problem is that many people have sympathy for these ideas, but they lead to a more paralized world.

Without the Troika, retirement age would have been 57 and Greece would have kept overspending and providing false figures to the rest of Europe.

I say: a free Volkswagen Nait 1 for everyone!

Allante93 posted:

Wow, Headlines, the Brexit could cost the Banks 51 Billion!

Don't worry too much for them.

Profits - they keep.

Losses, we'll pay.

If you owe a bank a million it's your problem.

If you owe a bank ten million it's everyone's problem.

Banks don't have problems.

GBP is now at $.124, good stuff. So when do we see Naim revise the prices in the US?

Peter, I hope that your decimal point has slipped or we're really in the mire.

Peter Dinh posted:

GBP is now at $.124, good stuff. So when do we see Naim revise the prices in the US?

Excuse me Peter, old chap........I don't think you fully understand......

........the whole point about Brexit is to make things over here, better for people who voted to leave.

Nothing to do with making things better for people outside the UK, or even for those who voted to Remain.

That £5k amp that used to cost $10k (when back in 2000 you got $2 for £1) is still going to set you guys back $10k (plus inflation). It's just that $10k now buys £8k. So Naim can now live life to the full.....whoopee (for some)...............

............oh! I forgot...........Naim now have to buy their components from China and are going to need most of that £8k to do so, because the £££ has fallen against other currencies, and also, those BMWs and Mercs that we here in the UK so like are needing a few more £££ because the Euro is a bit stronger...........

Oh, sod it. It's all a bit more complicated than I first thought............... but I don't see you Peter, being quite so well off in the Naim Department any time soon............in fact, I don't see many of us better off in any department, any time soon !! ( and i'm an optimist)

sjbabbey posted:

Peter, I hope that your decimal point has slipped or we're really in the mire.

sj, Peter is looking ahead to Monday..................

I am an optimist as well, Don. I am hoping that I could buy a 10K GBP Naim amp with $8K

banzai posted:

I am an optimist as well, Don. I am hoping that I could buy a 10K GBP Naim amp with $8K

By Monday that could be a done deal..............but

.........don't wait too long, just in case Trump wins...........

Could Trump be worse than Corbyn?

Well, I would describe Trump as "Dissociated Active" whilst Corbyn is "Dissociated Passive".

Trump could cause so much damage, so quickly, whilst with Corbyn we would watch it slowly unfurl.

Take your pick. But whilst I see aslight possibility of Trump winning, I don't see even the remotest chance of Corbyn leading a party to victory.

Don Atkinson posted:

Trump could cause so much damage, so quickly, whilst with Corbyn we would watch it slowly unfurl.

Brexit is a Corbyn'ist syndrome, it will slowly unfurl the damages.

Don Atkinson posted:

Peter Dinh posted:

GBP is now at $.124, good stuff. So when do we see Naim revise the prices in the US?

Excuse me Peter, old chap........I don't think you fully understand......

........the whole point about Brexit is to make things over here, better for people who voted to leave.

Nothing to do with making things better for people outside the UK, or even for those who voted to remain.

I I thought the European union was established under the principal, those countries that trade together, are less likely to partake in warfare.

 World war two!

So correct me if I'm wrong, the major players are anti Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, Hillary, and Hollande are anti Brexit, France, US, Germany, and the UK!

The New World Order, not the Gold Standard, not Black Gold ( Oil ), but the American Dollar.

USD/EUR = 1.12

USD/GBP = 1.24

USD/CAN = .75

USD/RUB = .016

USD/CNY = .14

Why the Dollar Is the Global Currency?

Perhaps it's all about Globalization, and the New World Order!

The Age of technology, Google!

Just some rambled thoughts.

 Allante93!

Allante93 posted:

 So correct me if I'm wrong, the major players are anti Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, Hillary, and Hollande are anti Brexit, France, US, Germany, and the UK!

Teresa May was never anti-Brexit.  She just thought Remain would win so felt that was the best side to support.  As it happens being pro-Remain (on paper) has let her be hailed as a true believer and converted to being pro-Brexit when she was always anti-immigration, anti-Human Rights.  Like the worst of politicians her position has changed to suit the mood to enable her to gain and keep power!

An easy way of knowing how many Euros to the pound?

Eloise posted:

Allante93 posted:

 So correct me if I'm wrong, the major players are anti Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, Hillary, and Hollande are anti Brexit, France, US, Germany, and the UK!

Teresa May was never anti-Brexit.  She just thought Remain would win so felt that was the best side to support.  As it happens being pro-Remain (on paper) has let her be hailed as a true believer and converted to being pro-Brexit when she was always anti-immigration, anti-Human Rights.  Like the worst of politicians her position has changed to suit the mood to enable her to gain and keep power!

I stand corrected again!

"The UK prime minister, Theresa May, for example, recently insisted Britain “must get the best possible trade deal with the EU from its upcoming Brexit negotiations”. That sounds eminently sensible and is perfectly true. But it (deliberately?) conceals the deeper truth that Britain already has the best possible trading arrangements with the European Union: it’s called the single market.""

This statement was one day ago, and caught the market by surprise. 

Just curious, bet the market didn't react.

In the end, follow the money, trade, Globalization.

Ask Yanis Varoufakis, about a timetable for the Brexit, March, I think not.

Hotel California, you can check out anytime, but you can't leave.

 Theresa May?

Merkel, Hillary, Hollande, is that Better!

The American Dollar

1.24, 1.12 TPT European Market

.75 NAFTA

Russian & China

The Big Picture!

Thanks for pointing that out, Eloise.

A Tory supporter, pro Brexit.

Is that what you mean, when you say like the worst of politicians, her position has changed to enable her to gain and keep power?

All New to me just surfing the web!

Allante93!

Allante93 posted:

Eloise posted:

Allante93 posted:

 So correct me if I'm wrong, the major players are anti Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, Hillary, and Hollande are anti Brexit, France, US, Germany, and the UK!

Teresa May was never anti-Brexit.  She just thought Remain would win so felt that was the best side to support.  As it happens being pro-Remain (on paper) has let her be hailed as a true believer and converted to being pro-Brexit when she was always anti-immigration, anti-Human Rights.  Like the worst of politicians her position has changed to suit the mood to enable her to gain and keep power!

I stand corrected again!

"The UK prime minister, Theresa May, for example, recently insisted Britain “must get the best possible trade deal with the EU from its upcoming Brexit negotiations”. That sounds eminently sensible and is perfectly true. But it (deliberately?) conceals the deeper truth that Britain already has the best possible trading arrangements with the European Union: it’s called the single market.""

This statement was one day ago, and caught the market by surprise. 

Just curious, bet the market didn't react.

In the end, follow the money, trade, Globalization.

Ask Yanis Varoufakis, about a timetable for the Brexit, March, I think not.

Hotel California, you can check out anytime, but you can't leave.

 Theresa May?

Merkel, Hillary, Hollande, is that Better!

The American Dollar

1.24, 1.12 TPT European Market

.75 NAFTA

Russian & China

The Big Picture!

Thanks for pointing that out, Eloise.

A Tory supporter, pro Brexit.

Is that what you mean, when you say like the worst of politicians, her position has changed to enable her to gain and keep power?

All New to me just surfing the web!

Allante93!

I never understand any point you seek to make.

Same here winky - regarding Allante93!

Eloise posted:

Allante93 posted:

 So correct me if I'm wrong, the major players are anti Brexit.

Theresa May, Merkel, Hillary, and Hollande are anti Brexit, France, US, Germany, and the UK!

Teresa May was never anti-Brexit.  She just thought Remain would win so felt that was the best side to support.  As it happens being pro-Remain (on paper) has let her be hailed as a true believer and converted to being pro-Brexit when she was always anti-immigration, anti-Human Rights.  Like the worst of politicians her position has changed to suit the mood to enable her to gain and keep power!

It's not just May, Eloise.

In my other thread, I referred to "Closset Brexiteers". Typical politicians. as you say above, their position changes to enable them to gain power and keep it. Me first brigade.

The words they speak are aimed at securing their position until retirement. Nothing to do with what's best for the nation in the long-term.

Eloise posted:

Teresa May was never anti-Brexit.  She just thought Remain would win so felt that was the best side to support.  As it happens being pro-Remain (on paper) has let her be hailed as a true believer and converted to being pro-Brexit when she was always anti-immigration, anti-Human Rights.  Like the worst of politicians her position has changed to suit the mood to enable her to gain and keep power!

All now conveniently forgotten. 

But not by all of us.

Not that it makes any difference.

I just completed (finally) my Dossier pour L'Accès à la Nationalité Française, the last document I needed arrived this morning.

It weighs 1.37kg. On [I suspect good] advice, I also made an exact, page-for-page, duplicate to keep, so that I can direct them to exactly where they might be so kind as to take a second look, just to check, should they inform me that something was 'missing'. As they are wont to do (apparently). 
Many trees will die because of Brexit...

Now begins the two year wait, the (up to) four interviews, and the liver-damaging consumption of wine*.

*actually, that began a while ago.