New Addition To Naim Digital Line-Up

Posted by: Peter_RN on 20 July 2011

Hello folks.

 

I see on the Naim website that there are to be a number of venues this summer for an event ‘Summer Sounds_On Stream’; none of which are being held particularly close to me!

 

However, the interesting point is that amongst the info is this statement. ‘There will also be an exclusive preview of the next addition to the Naim digital line-up and the chance to talk to Naim's expert team of research and design engineers’

 

So, the obvious question is…….What is it going to be?……..As someone desperate to add another streamer or a server/streamer, I would like at least an idea if this my we worth waiting for.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Regards

Peter

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Guido Fawkes

Cassette Deck?

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by totemphile

Might this be an XS type streamer that a lot of people are waiting for? It surely would seem the most obvious and fitting addition to Naim's product line at this stage. I can't see it being an NDS, not so close to the launch of the NDX, Naim will want to saturate the premium end of the market with the NDX as best they can first before launching anything better.

 

Just guessing of course...

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Peter_RN
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

Cassette Deck?

 

Hi Guy

 

Funny you should say that, it’s a subject I have a question about and think you may be just the person who may have a solution/suggestion about. Another thread though I guess.

 

Regards

Peter

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Julian H

I'm very interested in an entry level streamer, an ND5i if you will..., for about £750?

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by ramona.c
Supernait 2 with integrated streamer and an entry level streamer too.
The last one is quite overdue, I think...
Good decision, Naim! Late enough, i.m.h.o.
Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Data

A better Unitiqute?

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by ramona.c

SN 2 and Series 5 streamer are almost definite, as will be seen...

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by Peter_RN:
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

Cassette Deck?

 

Hi Guy

 

Funny you should say that, it’s a subject I have a question about and think you may be just the person who may have a solution/suggestion about. Another thread though I guess.

 

Regards

Peter

Yes Peter, a Dolby S capable Naim Cassette Deck is what we really all crave so we can forget all this digital stuff once and for all - I'd be more than happy to start copying my digital music to tape (Naim metal tapes, of course). I've had enough of all this ripping and streaming, which seems so last year.


My market research indicates this would be a big seller. I did a survey. I said Guy do you want one and I said yes please. So that is a 100% return. 


I think this would ensure perfect music forever


 

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Alamanka

UnitiVision: with Blue-Ray Player and HD streamer

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Stoik

My bet is on a preamp with an integrated DAC and DS. Something around the price point of a NAC 202 + £500... And it will be the replacement of the NAC 202.

 

Bye.

 

 

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by AMA

New remote control for Linn DS streamers ?  (I wish we could post anonymous messages )

Posted on: 20 July 2011 by Salmon Dave
Originally Posted by Stoik:

My bet is on a preamp with an integrated DAC and DS. Something around the price point of a NAC 202 + £500... And it will be the replacement of the NAC 202.

 

Bye.

 

 


Nah - they'll replace the amp entire line up in a year or two, as per 1989 and 2002.

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Peter_RN
Originally Posted by AMA:

New remote control for Linn DS streamers ?  (I wish we could post anonymous messages )

 

Steady now AMA steady, you are bordering on heresy there you know.

Still, it is another great British company, so you may be forgiven…….eventually.

 

Mind you, if Naim were to borrow their ‘Songcast’ feature this would imho make a huge improvement to, and make more viable, the multi room streaming solution. The idea of having two or more streams (of the same music) that are not in sync: is not appealing to me.

 

Peter

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Peter_RN
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
Originally Posted by Peter_RN:
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

Cassette Deck?

 

Hi Guy

 

Funny you should say that, it’s a subject I have a question about and think you may be just the person who may have a solution/suggestion about. Another thread though I guess.

 

Regards

Peter

Yes Peter, a Dolby S capable Naim Cassette Deck is what we really all crave so we can forget all this digital stuff once and for all - I'd be more than happy to start copying my digital music to tape (Naim metal tapes, of course). I've had enough of all this ripping and streaming, which seems so last year.


My market research indicates this would be a big seller. I did a survey. I said Guy do you want one and I said yes please. So that is a 100% return. 


I think this would ensure perfect music forever


 

 

Well Guy I’m with you, so does that make it 200%?

 

We are listening a lot now to FM and would like to record for a couple of hours in decent quality, oh, and a start/stop timer would be useful.

 

O happy days.

 

 

 

I fear I might be getting old.

 

Peter

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Hook

As suggested by others above, I also think it will be a UnitiQute XS.

 

All of the functionality of a UnitiQute, but in an XS chassis with 60 Watts per channel.

 

Followed shortly by the SuperQute....

 

Hook

 

 

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by totemphile

You might be right there Hook. Thinking about it, it does seem plausible. Maybe it's too early still for an NDXS, such a product just might cannibalise NDX sales at this stage too...

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Hook
Originally Posted by totemphile:

You might be right there Hook. Thinking about it, it does seem plausible. Maybe it's too early still for an NDXS, such a product just might cannibalise NDX sales at this stage too...

 

You are probably right TP.   If I were Paul, that is how I would think too.

 

Still, I am pretty sure that the lion's share of NDX owners are using its analog outputs.   So a new, digital output-only version may only cut into only a small portion of NDX sales (those few of us only using it as a digital transport for a DAC).   But the announcement did give me pause to think a bit... 

 

It would surprise me if Naim were able to produce a product that delivered as good a digital output as the NDX, and did so at a significantly lower price.   AllenB, Aysil and others have done the comparisons between the digital outputs of the NDX, UnitiQute and UnitiServe, and in their reference-level systems, they heard better sound quality when it was the NDX deliverering the S/PDIF signal to their DAC/555PS. 

 

Oh well, who knows.  Hopefully Naim will drop a hint or two in the next couple of weeks.  In the meantime, it is always fun to speculate!

 

Hook

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Salmon Dave
Originally Posted by Hook:

As suggested by others above, I also think it will be a UnitiQute XS.

 

All of the functionality of a UnitiQute, but in an XS chassis with 60 Watts per channel.

 

Followed shortly by the SuperQute....

 

Hook

 

 


I would hope for just the Qute without the amp section (Qutette)

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Aleg

My guess would be a Uniti Range DAC.

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by Aleg:

My guess would be a Uniti Range DAC.

The nDAC already seems to be right in the Uniti range price-wise.  Given the capabilities and relatively low price of the nDAC, and the success of the internal DAC of the NDX, I dont see a new Naim stand-alone DAC on the horizon.

 

I personally would LOVE a stripped down digital output.  Ideally this is a Serve without ripping/drives.   Or it could be a Qute without amps.

 

In the Serve example above I would like a legit PSU and digital output on par with Qute.

For the Qute I simply want it as is but without amps.

 

Either way, 1/2 case Naim digi out.   $$$$$$$$$$$$

 

-Patrick

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Stoik
Originally Posted by Salmon Dave:

Nah - they'll replace the amp entire line up in a year or two, as per 1989 and 2002.


Hmm, It might be affecting the visual look only. Just see what happened with the preamp's entry level offering. In 9 years we had NAC 112, 112x, 122x and now 152XS... Clearly, the evolution of the product line-up would never be put on hold for cosmetic reasons.

 

Bye.

Posted on: 21 July 2011 by Aleg
Originally Posted by pcstockton:
Originally Posted by Aleg:

My guess would be a Uniti Range DAC.

The nDAC already seems to be right in the Uniti range price-wise.  Given the capabilities and relatively low price of the nDAC, and the success of the internal DAC of the NDX, I dont see a new Naim stand-alone DAC on the horizon.

 

I personally would LOVE a stripped down digital output.  Ideally this is a Serve without ripping/drives.   Or it could be a Qute without amps.

 

In the Serve example above I would like a legit PSU and digital output on par with Qute.

For the Qute I simply want it as is but without amps.

 

Either way, 1/2 case Naim digi out.   $$$$$$$$$$$$

 

-Patrick


My guess was based on something that I am not waiting for and that would add only a little to the current product line and would be easy to produce from current products.

 

My mood is not great today

Posted on: 22 July 2011 by Harry

My hope more than a guess (which is probably the same thing) is for a S or 555 level streamer. I think if anything that development is likely to be lower in the hierarchy because value units will generate more income than angel dust. Maybe a Pe/DAC or XSDAC? The two events which I could possibly get to clash with work commitments which is the universe's way of telling me I've already spent enough. Which is a shame. 

  

Posted on: 22 July 2011 by Lightkeeper
Yes, something like shoebox or XS DAC have sense to me.
Posted on: 22 July 2011 by hego99
Originally Posted by pcstockton:
My guess would be a Uniti Range DAC.

The nDAC already seems to be right in the Uniti range price-wise.  Given the capabilities and relatively low price of the nDAC, and the success of the internal DAC of the NDX, I dont see a new Naim stand-alone DAC on the horizon.

I hope for a more mid-price "nDAC XS", and I don't agree that the nDAC's price is "relatively low" -- relative to what, your own private golf course?

I listen only to digitally sourced music (no vinyl) and realize that an nDAC would be the perfect upgrade to my system -- I still don't wanna pay £2000 for a(n)y DAC...