New Uniti Core

Klout10 posted:

T38.45 posted:

So will there be something like an Ultra Core (speak HDX2) in future?

It's not likely that Naim will comment on future products ...

Correct - it's not something that we are allowed to discuss.

Once a product has been announced by our PR or marketing guys then we can discuss it - until then then it doesn't exist.

Phil

Hi Phil

The Atom will support ripping to an external USB  drive as a data store.  Will the Core support this too, as an alternative to internal disk or nas?

An external linear-powered USB drive is regarded as the optimal Unitiserve replay configuration in my region, with up to several TB capacity.

Also, will the Core import an existing Unitiserve NaimMusic library with its metadata edits etc?

thanks.....

40 below posted:

Hi Phil

The Atom will support ripping to an external USB  drive as a data store.  Will the Core support this too, as an alternative to internal disk or nas? 

Yes ... it will support USB drives as stores.

40 below posted:

Also, will the Core import an existing Unitiserve NaimMusic library with its metadata edits etc?

Yes ... it will import an existing music store and work with that.

Cheers

Phil

Phil Harris posted:

Jude2012 posted:

Are downloaded files (i.e. those not ripped by the Core) also stored in the Core in the same structure (i.e. a folder for each album)?

Hi,

They're stored in whatever folder structure you want - Downloaded files are not reorganized by the Core, they are simply indexed using the file tags so you can have the files themselves organized however you wish, whether that's <Artist>/<Album>/<Tracknum - Trackname> or every file thrown into a single directory or anything in between.

 

I hope the new software is more forgiving about what tags it permits, or rather will stop to hide albums that it thinks have wrong tags. With the old servers,  an album with artist and original artist set to different values, would cause the album not to be displayed at all. Often you would have to strip a lot of tags from downloaded files before the software would  list the album.

 

Claus

Comparing Core with Aurender/Melco with direct DAC connection- what's the max resolution via coax? 192/24?

Ralf

T38.45 posted:

Comparing Core with Aurender/Melco with direct DAC connection- what's the max resolution via coax? 192/24?

Ralf

IIRC Melco can output up to 384/32 rendered (and DSD), on USB, but dosn't have SPDIF outputs so a convertor would be needed to SPDIF if the DAC doesn't have a USB input. However, Melco also outputs unrendered digital stream on a dedicated RJ socket for dedicated connection to  an external renderer, whether discrete or combined with DAC in a streamer,   via ethernet patch cord just like a network with nothing else connected, and which may have no audio bitrate limit in itself (?)

Mac Mini/Audirvana (not in your question, but just for comparative purposes) can also output up to 384/32 and DSD on USB, and similarly a converter is needed to go to SPDIF, when the flow is limited by the converter, which also isolares from the MM's electrical/rf noise. (It is possible to use the MM's own SPDIF outputs, but sound quality may suffer so not recommended for best sound.)

I used a Gustard U12 as a convertor, which IIRC can input up to 384/32 but I think electrical SPDIF and optical are limited to 192.  ( Actually I think the coax electrical SPDIF standard limit may be 192/32)

I don't know about the Uniti Core - presumably in its spec?

...didn't find the specs...it says "digital spdif"....so i guess it's 192/24 limit. It seems that the digital output has much better capabilities comparing to unitiserve or hdx! transformer, better isolation etc... i could imagine, that the Core plays in the same league like Aurender & Co!

Andrew Everard in his launch article says that the Uniti Core can deliver up to 12 simultaneous streams at 384kHz/24 bit over Ethernet.

best

David

I am sure this has already been raised somewhere. If UC is to replace US, HDD or SSD, as the latest storage integrated server of the range, why does it now have onboard power supply where neither pre nor NDS do? Is Salisbuty confirming that digital signal is not so sensitive to RFI?

Chag -

Chag... posted:

I am sure this has already been raised somewhere. If UC is to replace US, HDD or SSD, as the latest storage integrated server of the range, why does it now have onboard power supply where neither pre nor NDS do? Is Salisbuty confirming that digital signal is not so sensitive to RFI?

Chag -

And NDX, ND5XS, CD5XS, CDX2 do. So what exctly does that prove?

Chag... posted:

I am sure this has already been raised somewhere. If UC is to replace US, HDD or SSD, as the latest storage integrated server of the range, why does it now have onboard power supply where neither pre nor NDS do? Is Salisbuty confirming that digital signal is not so sensitive to RFI?

Chag -

The Unitiserve has a switched mode power supply and Naim decided to keep that separate from the US box for rfi etc reasons no doubt. The Uniti Core has a linear power supply like all of the units Adam mentions and Naim decided that that can be allowed into the box with the other electronics.

best

David

The clue is in the name, perhaps? No other Uniti product has ever had an external PSU option, maybe if a Classic level server is released, that would.

Adam Zielinski posted:

And NDX, ND5XS, CD5XS, CDX2 do. So what exctly does that prove?

Maybe that UC is only at SQ level of these.  

Chag -

Chag... posted:

Adam Zielinski posted:

And NDX, ND5XS, CD5XS, CDX2 do. So what exctly does that prove?

Maybe that UC is only at SQ level of these.  

Chag -

That actually would be quite nice. And surprising.

Should we stick to our US's and linear alternative PSUs then?

Chag -

Definitely sticking to mine. After the 4th exchange it's brand new now.

Adam Zielinski posted:

Definitely sticking to mine. After the 4th exchange it's brand new now.

That's it, the improvement of the UC over the US must be in the reliability. Question may be whether reliability has impact on SQ.. 

Chag -

Chag... posted:

Adam Zielinski posted:

Definitely sticking to mine. After the 4th exchange it's brand new now.

That's it, the improvement of the UC over the US must be in the reliability. Question may be whether reliability has impact on SQ.. 

Chag -

There is no reason why both SQ and reliability couldn't have been improved of course.

best

David

David Hendon posted:

There is no reason why both SQ and reliability couldn't have been improved of course.

Absolutely true. Let's hope a few more days for this.  

Chag - 

I may just have to buy myself a Uniti Core to check......

best

David

Phil,

You had written in this forum some time ago, that the digital out of NS01 would sound better than that of US, and the digital out of HDX slightly better than NS01, because of power supply configurations... How would UCore place itself within this grading sequence? Any chance of it being even better than HDX in this respect?

aysil posted:

Phil,

You had written in this forum some time ago, that the digital out of NS01 would sound better than that of US, and the digital out of HDX slightly better than NS01, because of power supply configurations... How would UCore place itself within this grading sequence? Any chance of it being even better than HDX in this respect?

Very good point!!!

Has the Core started to ship yet? Couldn't find the Reference Manual or the  Quick Start Guide on the Customer Support page.  

Chag -

Chag... posted:

Has the Core started to ship yet? Couldn't find the Reference Manual or the  Quick Start Guide on the Customer Support page.  

Chag -

None of the new range is shipping yet. When the announcement was made they said Core first followed by Atom with the other two next year. So maybe we will see some Core's in dealers before Christmas. Also no manuals or detailed specs for any of the units have been released yet.

best

David