Resistance was futile - 552 arriving soon!

Posted by: kevin J Carden on 08 October 2016

Back in February I started a thread 'WHAT'S MY NEXT MOVE FROM A 52/500 SET UP?' to ask if there were any worthwhile changes advisable to improve my system. I think I knew at the time that the only truly substantial answer was to change 52 for a 552, but at just under £20k new and with me now semi-retired, I didn't think it was likely to be a financially viable option.

The forums' collective wisdom ( I thank/blame you all !)  informed me that 552's could occasionally be found for less and I have today been able (not to mention fortunate enough) to find an ex-dem one at a still high, but just about doable price.

52/SC has gone, wafted by a thousand grateful kisses for its excellent 17years of service and on to a new owner to cherish. Musicless for a weekend, but I pick the 552 up on Tuesday. Can't wait...

thanks and curses to you all!  Kevin

Posted on: 08 October 2016 by The Strat (Fender)

Kevin - didn't you know that all the existing pre-amps are now redundant courtesy of the new Unitis and 272??!!

Great buy - enjoy!

Regards,

Lindsay

 

Posted on: 08 October 2016 by MDS

Congratulations, Kevin. You are going to enjoy the 552 immensely.

Posted on: 08 October 2016 by Chag...

Congratulations and.. shame on you Kevin. With the Sterling breaking a 1.15 support level this week, I am definitely next in line for a 552. But the Core is now coming around. It is endless, it his hopeless.:hehe:

Chag -

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Mike Kent

Teriffic! You just won't believe how good it is. Yes, expensive but worth every penny. 

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by varyat

Awesome 

You won't regret it- great box.

ATB,

Mark

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by dave marshall

Congrats, I see many late nights in your future! 

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Bert Schurink

The best upgrade I made. So enjoy....

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Harry

Congratulations and best wishes with it. The 552 and 500 go together so well that they could be regarded as a four box integrated! If you think they are going to sound good you're in for a surprise. They will sound better than that.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by kevin J Carden

Thanks all. I am prepared to be shocked so hoping I still will be if you know what I mean! Expectations certainly are high, but sounds like they will be met or exceeded 

One thing I did do after Feb was add the SuperLumina IC. I'm still appreciating what an absolutely fundamental change that made to the music as opposed to the HiFi as such. Odd to say for such an expensive cable, but I feel it's been one of the best upgrades I've made.

Inevitably, Thoughts will now turn to servicing my now 13 year old 500. 'Cheap option' of just a service or go the whole hog and DR? Again I think I know the answer, but that may have to wait for finances to recover which may be a while.  How long can I push not having a service on a 2003 amp?

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by hungryhalibut

It was said at the time of introduction that they could last 15 years.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Harry

Yeah. Fifteen years. So you have a couple in hand.

The DR upgrade is really good. Sorry about that!

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Darke Bear

Enjoy the 552 - it works optimally-well with the 500.

When funds permit the DR 500 is a different beast entirely, so save-up for that in the future.

DB.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Ron Toolsie

Yes, I well remember my first 552 experience, having lived with a 52 for many years prior. The 552 is better in soooo many ways than the 52, and yet they both evoke equal visceral responses. 

Reflecting back some 14 years ago, when the 552 first made an appearance in my system-before I actually purchased one...

As the title implies, this mind experiment became reality today. My 'local' dealer (Sound Image, Atlanta) trekked almost 2 hours up I-75 to make this happen. I confess since installing the Mana Soundbase 3s under the DBLs I have taken on a whole new joy of listening to music, spending hours a day in rapture disk after disk after disk. Well poised indeed to inject and inspect the 552.

First impressions upon unboxing them was how HEAVY the head unit is...it is heavier even than its companion 552PS power supply, which itself is hardly svelte. The Burndy cable is somewhat more flexible and hence easier to work with than that of the 52. The brushed finish on the chasses are also rather more elegant than the powder finish of the earlier series products, although upon shelving them this facet becomes lost to the eye leaving only the fascia to behold. Personally I gravitate to the rather more instinctive lay-out of the 52s front panel, but that may be instinct bred from familiarity. Once the 552s transit bolts are removed it has to be handled rather delicately-a task certainly not facilitated by its heft. Anyway, we let the 552/552PS warm up while we ran lots of tunes through the mere 52 (both the 52 and its Supercap were recapped a couple months ago).

It was then time to pull out the 52 and slot in the 552. This took a little longer than anticipated as the rats nest of cables behind the stand resulted in me trying unsuccesfully to mate the 52 Burndy into the 552-physically impossible. During this exercise in futility I managed to stand up briskly glancing my scalp of the very sharp corner of the Mana wall stand. I bled only a little. Eventually the error was recognized and the correct Burndy inserted with relative ease and no additional spillage of blood. The 52s Supercap was then put to service as a dedicated supply for the Prefix (we didn't try powering the Prefix off the 552 head unit- it was already a cable jungle in the back; maybe next time).

We then played a couple tracks of Phoebe Snows first album and realized the 552 was in its warming up stage-each track sounded decidedly better than the preceeding one- (it have been unplugged for quite some time while I wrestled with the wrong Burndy). So we took a wine break (Phoenix Merlot, Sonoma County) for 30 mins or so while things were re-warming up upstairs.

After the bottle was duly laid to rest we returned to the music room and proceeded to put the 552 through is paces, starting off with (why not) the CDS2. Now... thats more like it!!!
The 552 has a consumate sense of ease and sounds so very unforced, uncoloured and absolutely linear. Discontinuities that I had absolutely thought to be room acoustics disappeared leaving behind a tremendously insightful sound, full of inflection, nuance, microdetails and a credible tonality- so much like the real thing rather than just a reproduction. I swear Jennifer Charles (Elysian Fields) was standing between the speakers and whispering temptingly in my ear- I could not only hear her breath, I could feel it too. The track in question ( the title track from Bleed your Cedar) has a very tight plucked double bass in it which took on a new degree of precision and resinous tonality. Although it was somewhat more extended than the 52s, it appeared paradoxically lighter as there was less pervasive boom and a much more defined leading edge. I can see that this (on long term use) would require subtle changes in the Snaxo settings, but there was no time for ultra-tuning in the course of one evening. Disk after disk was played. The excellent XRCD of Tiger Okoshi took on a great delicacy of the brushed cymbal work with little variations in brush pressure being faithfully rendered, and his Milesesque trumpet tone having the brassy bite and microinflections that sounded good enough to eat. Very subtle time variations away from the absolute beat greatly increased the intensity of this piece.
Returning to vinyl was an enriching experience, no doubt fortified by the dedicated Scap on the Prefix. Linda Ronstadts voice became even more beautiful and breathy, and the sweet string arrangements (as noted by Richard) seemed far more consonant with the production. Piano notes had the sharp attack and long delay that made them more than just a 'keyboard'.

And so the show went on... after returning from a dinner break (courtesy of fellow afficionado Mahmood)things were incrementally better again. We finished the session with Billy Joels 'the Stranger' album. The strummed guitar on 'Just the way you are' and the expressive breathy sax break were JUST right, the relatively slow sweeping guitar strum resolved into attack envelopes of each individual string with discrete tuning instead of a quick succession of 'plink, plink, plink'.

By this point the hour was getting late. Richard generously offered to leave the 552 with me through the weekend and even come and pick up it, an offer I had to decline. Yes, I was afraid to keep it inhouse because the temptation would become greater than the voice of reason- I just cannot stretch to a 552 at this point.

Following the departure of Richard and Lawson, the 52 was place in the void left behind. We (Mahmood was still there) then listened long and hard. Yes, it was a comedown. There were many elements of the presentation that I just knew were not happening, there were colorations, some slight smearing, a partial loss of soundstage, a lower standard of unflappable poise.. yet, yet..yet the 52 was still a blast to listen to. Which is exactly what we did until well after midnight, pulling disks with almost the same degree of anticipation and enjoyment as we did when the 552 was resident. The 552 is truly a superlative performer, and probably unmatched by any other contender. But the 52 still has a great degree of the boogie factor although in a rather more uncouth and unkept way, but certainly does not need to be apologized about.

The burning question that I am unable to answer is this....if one is (as myself) at the level of a 52/6x135/Snaxo/Scap/DBLs would one get the 552 first and retain the 6-pack, or would it be preferable (in terms of raw performance) to forego the 6pack in favour of a single passive NAP500. I know for a fact the latter has an edge when it comes to the authority of the very low frequency dynamics, yet there is a certain magic and unforced ease that is very strongly conveyed by the 552/6x135 by merit of activation.

I however am choosing neither of those immediate paths. A NAP300 is on order and will be shortly driving the DBL tweeters. It is not lost on me that 3 pairs of NAP300 are not *that* much more than 1x500. Will I eventually get the 552?... very likely to certainly. But I am not ashamed to admit that I am using the now-obsolete 52!

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by kevin J Carden

I know what you mean Ron and fully agree. I'm sure the 552 is going to take me to another level altogether in so many ways, but the 52 has been a wonderful companion all this time and having not experienced what the 552 brought to the party, the 52 has never made itself obvious as the bottleneck to performance of the system,  even though I know that it has been. The many late nights that Dave referred to earlier have already been a regular event, even with the 52. Having said that, I feel I can hear a bit of what the above posters have highlighted, namely, that the 500 will be truly let loose to deliver its best with a 552 in front of it. Can't wait!

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Richieroo

When my lottery win comes in ..... the 552 and NDS .... would be on order immeditely.....meanwhile I will scrabble funds to DR my aging 500....

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Richard Dane

Ron, thanks for that post - it took me back to the first time I had a NAC552 at home to compare with my NAC52.  Very similar impressions although I did at least manage to avoid a nasty head injury...

Kevin, enjoy the 552!

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Laxton Yeo

I just had my "Oh My God" moment yesterday when I replaced by 252DR with a 552DR. It took only all of 10 seconds from stone cold to tell how superlative the 552DR is compared to the 252DR. There is a sheer sense of openness about the delivery and how unconstrained it is. The 552 just isn't cut from the same cloth as the rest of Naim's preamps below it. Its characteristic is so different and makes the speakers disappear completely. Listening to Herbie Hancock, it's just amazing how his saxophone takes on a completely different dimension, with the tonality of the brass rendered so realistically that it's just scary. 

I just couldn't believe how much difference a pre-amp can make and this is just through a 300DR. The jump was an order of magnitude higher that the jump I had from a ND5XS to a NDS/555DR.  Now I understand why people say that the 552DR is Naim's best product.

To add on, the issues I had post 300 DR upgrade was completely gone. It seemed that 252DR/300 was a good match and the DR upgrade to the 300 threw it off balance, and required a 552DR to set things right again.

I'm just looking forward to the running in process and how it's going to evolve in the months ahead.

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Harry
Laxton Yeo posted:

There is a sheer sense of openness about the delivery and how unconstrained it is. The 552 just isn't cut from the same cloth as the rest of Naim's preamps below it. Its characteristic is so different and makes the speakers disappear completely. 

I just couldn't believe how much difference a pre-amp can make and this is just through a 300DR.

This is what I thought about the 252, until I heard a 552. Neither of them sound remotely similar to each other or anything else. 

There often seems to be a belief that moving up the Naim hierarchy is a case of "more of the same". I don't think that's the case at all.

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by varyat

Well done Laxton- it is good isn't it ?

I stand with those that believe the 552 is the best Naim product ( Statement excluded ). Single biggest upgrade that I have experienced from a box swap.

ATB,

Mark

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Laxton Yeo
varyat posted:

Well done Laxton- it is good isn't it ?

I stand with those that believe the 552 is the best Naim product ( Statement excluded ). Single biggest upgrade that I have experienced from a box swap.

ATB,

Mark

It's just amazing how it brings out all the minor inflections in the music that you didn't even know it was there, and in a totally natural and believable way. The music just flows, drawing you deeper into the mix. Now I get goosebumps every time I press play on the NDS.

 

I'm glad you are enjoying your 552 and I bet it's probably a long term keeper for you.

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by al9315
Laxton Yeo posted:

I just had my "Oh My God" moment yesterday when I replaced by 252DR with a 552DR. It took only all of 10 seconds from stone cold to tell how superlative the 552DR is compared to the 252DR. There is a sheer sense of openness about the delivery and how unconstrained it is. The 552 just isn't cut from the same cloth as the rest of Naim's preamps below it. Its characteristic is so different and makes the speakers disappear completely. Listening to Herbie Hancock, it's just amazing how his saxophone takes on a completely different dimension, with the tonality of the brass rendered so realistically that it's just scary. 

 

Thought Herbie played piano !?

I am thinking about 252 - you are putting me off !!??

Glad it is going well

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by kevin J Carden

Question please.  I have the beast home (after a 10 hour round trip to London courtesy of the M4 closure this morning ��). Connecting up, it wasn't entirely clear which end was which on the Burndy - there's no external white tape on one end, just a tape underneath the black netting which covers the lead. Presumably this is the control unit end as opposed to the PS end?

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by hungryhalibut

Yes, that's right. 

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by kevin J Carden

Thanks HH. I have to say that contrary to Laxton's first 10 seconds, my initial response was more 'OMG that's awful' ! Tinny, flat, colourless, stuck in the speakers. 1 hour later it was starting to bloom and I think just needs to warm, as do the NDS and 500 which have been unplugged for 4days. I'm off to bed soon and hoping to wake up to a different sound!

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Richard Dane

Kevin, the white band is under the black sheathing - yes it goes closest to the head unit.  Banded ends always go closest to the source of the music.