Quick Fraim chips question...

Posted by: Tarquin Maynard-Portly on 13 October 2016

Hola muchachos

Are they solid or do they have a rubber / etc bottom?

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by ChrisSU

They are all metal.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Tarquin Maynard-Portly

Thank you 

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Tarquin Maynard-Portly

I'm thinking now.. What are they made from?

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by sheffieldgraham

If the  metal base of the chips is an issue you could stick some self adhesive felt or rubber pads on them .

Don't know what the SQ consequences are though.

Pretty easy to try with and with out though.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Tarquin Maynard-Portly

I'm thinking that a pure metal solution might be best - I have no doubt that Naim HQ tried with and without rubber soles. Wondering what metal they are.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by sheffieldgraham
Tarquin Maynard-Portly posted:

I'm thinking that a pure metal solution might be best - I have no doubt that Naim HQ tried with and without rubber soles. Wondering what metal they are.

Is the type of metal an issue? Probably aluminium or stainless steel (austenitic or ferritic ?)

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Tarquin Maynard-Portly

I expect it would be. 

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by tonym

They do tend to rust if you get them wet. I don't think they're stainless, certainly not aluminium.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Clive B

I think they are stainless. Even stainless will corrode.

It looks like they're the same material as used in the Fraim cups which fit in the shelves.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Richard Dane

They are stainless steel - I can't recall which type exactly (I think it was posted on the forum some years back) but chosen for their performance qualities.  As Clive says, they can get as little bit of discolouration in damp conditions but easily removed.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by tonym

Indeed, the basic types of stainless can corrode. The chips do seem to corrode rather too readily. Cheap stuff. Perhaps it sounds better than the higher quality ss?

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by sheffieldgraham
tonym posted:

They do tend to rust if you get them wet. I don't think they're stainless, certainly not aluminium.

Ferritic stainless has a tendency to corrode (rust), Fe/Cr structure.  Austenitic stainless Fe/Cr/Ni doesn't.

Generally speaking Ferritic is harder due to more often than not higher C content. Austenitic is tough and non magnetic:

Ferritic has  magnetic tendencies.

 

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Tarquin Maynard-Portly

Thanks Groovers - fascinating stuff :-)

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by hungryhalibut
Tarquin Maynard-Portly posted:

I'm thinking now.. What are they made from?

King Edwards. 

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by tonym
sheffieldgraham posted

 

Ferritic has  magnetic tendencies.

 

This I know of Naim Chips because my (patented) Fraim Ball Retrieval System (tm), the top section of  a 4/6 weight fast action trout rod with a  1cm dia neodymium magnet Araldited to the top ring, has a tendency to cling to the b*ggers when being deployed. This can be particularly irritating when, as tends to happen, one of those pesky little balls runs behind the rearmost chip on my Fraim. I am working on plans for an electromagnet to replace the neodymium job, with a handy on-off switch built into a cork handle. Keep an eye on my website for news, or sign up for notification by e-mail.

Posted on: 13 October 2016 by Innocent Bystander
tonym posted:

They do tend to rust if you get them wet. I don't think they're stainless, certainly not aluminium.

Best cease hosing the Fraim down every Sunday, then. And keep Peter Belt's dish of water well away.