Powerline Lite

It will be available next year and cost about £100, according to the blurb about the new Unitis. Clearly it's not as good as the existing Powerline. As to whether you should wait in order to get something less good, that's your decision. 

Powerline lite £100. Powerline £500.00+ I think your question is answered...

Tariq - with that level of equipment, as per your list, I would not skimp on few PowerLines. You will immediately notice their impact.

Thanks for your responses, ordered it today, hopefully will have a listen as early as tomorrow

Hello tariqv are you in Istanbul? 

Totally agree with everyone. Now, do Naim have a Superlumina Powerline in development??? 

wenger2015 posted:

Powerline lite £100. Powerline £500.00+ I think your question is answered...

Or stick with standard supplied naim mains lead

Tariqv posted:

Hi, I'm about to pull the plug (no pun intended!) on a new Powerline (EU type) but I'm having second thoughts due to the announcement of the Powerline Lite. Is there any info about this new product? Do you think I should wait for it first before taking the plunge?

Yes I think you should wait. Remember 'foreign' powerlines have a different (non-bouncy!) mains plug [furutech last I looked] so they are not that similar. I asked a while back about where the "tech - lite" would appear in the powerline lite but got no reply. If it is 'all' in the mains plug end (not the IEC end) it may be of no benefit to overseas customers.

Tariqv posted:

Hi, I'm about to pull the plug (no pun intended!) on a new Powerline (EU type)

but why? so disappointed by its performance?

Emre posted:

Hello tariqv are you in Istanbul? 

Yes

Not sure what the Powerline Lite is going to be like I found the Powerline to be surprisingly good upgrade for SN2. Very impressed with it. 

Not sure but I'd imagine just a lighter version, maybe plastic of some sort? 

Finkfan posted:

Not sure but I'd imagine just a lighter version, maybe plastic of some sort? 

My guess would have been that 'Lite' was more referring to the performance of the cable but I suppose it could be anything! 

Yeah I should imagine that's true also. 

Tariqv posted:

Emre posted:

Hello tariqv are you in Istanbul? 

Yes

Nice to have another member from istanbul, drop me a line sometime, i just ordered 2 powerlines from extreme audio, are you shopping from them? 

Found the Powerline in Izmir actually from Dukkanhifi. I haven't been able to decipher how to PM you, apologies to other forum members

To ensure there's no solicitation of members, there's no private messaging here but you can post to another member's  wall.

So initial impressions, with the PL on the NDX...Had the chance to listen to a few songs yet, songs that I know well. First thing I immediately noticed, lower noise floor. The sound is slightly more focused and notes slam harder (more definition in audio-speak?). 

On the negative side the treble has become quite tiresome, any idea why?

Give it a change to burn in, I'm sure it will calm down 

Tariqv posted:

So initial impressions, with the PL on the NDX...Had the chance to listen to a few songs yet, songs that I know well. First thing I immediately noticed, lower noise floor. The sound is slightly more focused and notes slam harder (more definition in audio-speak?). 

On the negative side the treble has become quite tiresome, any idea why?

Tariq - give it a while to settle down. PowerLine calms the performance of the component it is connected to. If trebble continue to be problematic, have a look at: interconnects and speaker positioning in the room. You may have to adjust your speakers' toe-in angle or move them by few centimeters.

I got my powerline s/h and it still took a day or two to settle so I'd give it some time.

Are they any difference between us/eu/uk powerline performance wise?

Emre posted:

Are they any difference between us/eu/uk powerline performance wise?

Not that I know of.

Actually the key design element is the component-side plug. 

Emre posted:

Are they any difference between us/eu/uk powerline performance wise?

As the UK and foreign mains plugs are different (no decoupling tech in the overseas ones) there will be a difference (as the tech that is supposed to 'make the difference' isn't there in the overseas plugs). Whether that difference translates into a performance' differences is in the ears of the beholder.

Adam Zielinski posted:

Tariqv posted:

So initial impressions, with the PL on the NDX...Had the chance to listen to a few songs yet, songs that I know well. First thing I immediately noticed, lower noise floor. The sound is slightly more focused and notes slam harder (more definition in audio-speak?). 

On the negative side the treble has become quite tiresome, any idea why?

Tariq - give it a while to settle down. PowerLine calms the performance of the component it is connected to. If trebble continue to be problematic, have a look at: interconnects and speaker positioning in the room. You may have to adjust your speakers' toe-in angle or move them by few centimeters.

Thanks for the tip Adam; been listening for several hours, the treble is not as bad as it was before but still not completely settled down. Do you suggest that I increase toe-in or decrease, whats the rule of thumb to decrease the harsh treble effect?