Naim Power Lead

Posted by: alanb on 08 November 2016

Always use Naim stock power cable.  Tried Powerline but didn't feel the subtle difference warranted the outlay.

I remember many moons ago that Naim always used Crabtree plugs on their power cables.  I believe Crabtree no longer manufacture plugs and Naim switched to MK.  I pondered on this (as is my wont)  and found new Crabtree plugs on ebay.  Rewired my cable to the NAP 250DR expecting little change.  How wrong I was......the sound is more open and dynamic, soundstage more transparent, background blacker.  I huge success for little outlay.  Also tried one in the NAC 272 but with both together it was too much and a bit thin sounding.

Posted on: 08 November 2016 by wenger2015
nigelb posted:

ALANB, Yes, one or two members were possibly a little blunt in their challenging of your findings, but I do not believe their intention was to be rude. When you make such big claims for rather minor changes, expect to get challenged (sometimes robustly) on here. It is also worth becoming somewhat thick-skinned in the face of blunt challenges and be prepared to fight your corner if you feel you have found something that others can benefit from - surely the greatest benefit of a forum like this.

Personally I love to read about unusual, controversial and cheap upgrades. Very cheap upgrades should mean there is no reason why the doubters can't try these things for themselves. Indeed their rebuttals would be taken more seriously if they have indeed tried for themselves and could not replicate your findings. I find it is always worth asking those who disagree with your findings, if they have tried these things for themselves. It can sometimes go quiet when you ask these killer questions.

I hope you will reconsider and post again.

NIGELB,  have you ever considered a job in the diplomatic services? 

Posted on: 08 November 2016 by Sloop John B

Now I know HH through this forum for years and I can concur with his statement that he would not be intentionally rude to anyone. 

However when a reply can be paraphrased as " I think you're taking shite" it's probably hard not to take offence. 

and then when the retort is "we'll what would you know anyway", it's easy to see how bun fights start. 

The tone of the written word is sometimes hard to convey and easy to pick up wrong. 

Indeed the OPs assertion seems a strange one to me, but I don't doubt it is as he hears to him.  My instinct is to presume that there is something else at play but then again there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt about in my philosophy. 

 

SJB 

Posted on: 09 November 2016 by Loki
ryder. posted:
Okay thanks for that. I'll be eyeing the PK300 on clearance. When you mentioned the PK300 opened up the sound when compared to the Naim stock cord (on the Hicap), I presume the sound is airier, larger and more detailed.

Spot on.

Posted on: 09 November 2016 by Adam Meredith
Hungryhalibut posted:

Perhaps all that experience really has given you the ears of a bat and that I am aurally inadequate in some way. It just seems odd that swapping solely the mains plug really can make such a difference, particularly if the Crabtree is one of the current, and decidedly ropey, offerings. But if you can hear such a significant difference, and the benefits are not merely due to cleaning the contacts, which to me seems more likely, then that's great. 

This elucidation of your earlier post seems unnecessary. Unless the Naim plug-top, lead and IEC plug are in part, or whole, inferior to the standard mains cable it is 'odd' that a satisfactory improvement can be obtained by merely changing one, quite decent plug-top for another, slightly more quite decent, one. Not impossible - apparently.

There - now I've done it too.

On a slight tangent - this puts me in mind of those who asseverate there can be NO difference between anything (mains, interconnects and speaker leads) citing how they have tried Product X and heard NO difference - in fact it was inferior to the standard. Or, I feel empowered to point out, there was a difference.

I did my usual searches but couldn't find an earlier post on this -
in common with many power leads that jostle for credibility in the market, the RA model is proudly thick as a bull's pizzle and similarly weighty in the hand. I had a customer get quite stroppy with me over such a beast. He had, apparently, called previously to ask if A.N. Other power cords could damage Naim equipment. I replied that, if they conformed to relevant standards, they should not.

Subsequent use of these after-market leads had lead to arching within the equipment's IEC socket. The weight of the lead had partially pulled out the plug and caused an intermittent connection, arching and - damage. Be very careful to insert your pizzle deeply, firmly and ?madly.

Also - much of the intended general wonderfulness of the Powerline was thought to arise from various elements designed to address vibration. If this is at all credible, the Anaconda MK1X is, in contrast, almost design to maximise this.

Posted on: 09 November 2016 by nigelb
Alba1320 posted:

I know that we live in horribly Politically Correct times, but some people seem overly sensitive (to say the least), IMO.

Oops, I've probably just offended someone...

I am very upset that you could think we are overly sensitive on here. It is a very hurtful thing to say and I think you should apologise.