Convert waw files to flac

Posted by: Stover on 14 November 2016

I have sold my Unitiserve. Before I decide to purchase a Core server, I want to find out if I could live with my Synology NAS only. (In the start I used Synology along with a Mac mini)

I have copied the waw files from Serve to the NAS, it took me two days. How do I convert them easily to flac without the need of retagging?

After some search here I also wonder if the waw to flac convert should have been done in Unitiserve, before copying to NAS?

Will appreciate some inputs.

Stover

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by ChrisSU

You have answered your own question, if the conversion had been done on the Unitiserve your metadata should have been OK. Is it too late to reconnect it now?

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski

If the files have not been converted from WAV to FLAC it is too late now. Only another UnitServe or indeed a new Core will read the US WAV rips with all data.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by hungryhalibut

Oh dear. Before selling my Serve I got it to convert all its rips to flac and then backup to the Synology. There were about 12 albums out of 2,000 that did not convert for some reason, which were left as 150 or so separate tracks that I then converted with dbpoweramp and then had to assemble into albums. Had there been 20,000 rather than 150 it would have been more of a challenge.   This is the challenge that might be faced here, as the Serve puts the metadata in a file that sits alongside the music rather than being embedded within it. 

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by ChrisSU

Did you put the files on the NAS using the Unitiserve automatic backup? If so, you could probably put them onto another US or a Core as WAVs and then do the conversion to FLAC. Do you have a friendly Naim dealer who could lend you a US to do this? If you just copied the files over, I'm not sure if this would still work.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski
ChrisSU posted:

Did you put the files on the NAS using the Unitiserve automatic backup? If so, you could probably put them onto another US or a Core as WAVs and then do the conversion to FLAC. Do you have a friendly Naim dealer who could lend you a US to do this? If you just copied the files over, I'm not sure if this would still work.

Actually it will work.
I've run a series of tests when my UServes continued to fail. 
A new Uniti Serve will read a library of a previous one without any problems. If one is careful, rips made from another UnitiServe can be added to the RIP library and they will be read correctly by a new UnitiServe.

 

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

Thank you for your inputs, Unitiserve is still here  If I understand this correctly, I should convert from wav to flac within Unitiserve itself and then copy to Synology?

I will then have two libraries on the NAS, one in wav for a possible Core,  and one for use directly?

I did use drag and drop from my Mac only.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Correct. 

Depending on the number of albums it may take several days to complete the process. 

 

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

Thanks, there's 1477 albums ripped so far.

How to do it? From det desktop client, as I cannot see any such options from the app.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Yes - desktop client, or via a Safari-based interface. Change ripping format from WAV to FLAC. This should start the conversion process.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

Thank you Adam. I will try that

Stover

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Klout10

Indeed, as soon as change the ripping format, the Serve will start converting ... it may take a couple of days however :-) 

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

Another thing that come to my mind. If I do convert now, from wav to flac, there will be flac files only ont he Serve. Problem is, I have sold it as a unit with 1500 albums ripped in wav. This should not be easy.

I have a third option. I now have the wav version for å future Core, for current use, I just have to start ripping again, in flac, from such as XLD or dbpoweramp.

S

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Huge

Stover, if you sold the US along with all the music on it, then you've sold your rights to use the music.  If so you're only entitled to continue using the music yourself if you've bought a new copy of all the music for yourself (otherwise that would be copyright theft).

I may have misunderstood in translation.

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by Stover

I sold the serve and said that the music ripped to it will follow. with the music on it. The music is sort of a bonus. Anyway, I have understood how converting works now, and the buyer will get his music in wav 

Posted on: 14 November 2016 by hungryhalibut

If you change the ripping format, it only apples to new rips as far as I'm aware. You have to tell it to convert the existing files. If there is a regular backup set to run, the backup process will replace the backup WAV files with FLAC versions. At least, that's what happened when I did it. 

The point about selling the serve with all the files is important though, as legally you should not sell them and still use them yourself. 

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Klout10

You can toggle on the UnitiServe between WAC and FLAC, if you change the ripping format back to WAV, all the FLAC files will be converted back 

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by David Hendon
Hungryhalibut posted:

The point about selling the serve with all the files is important though, as legally you should not sell them and still use them yourself. 

I agree with HH on this. Furthermore, if you sold the US as explicitly having the music on, then the music is no longer yours and it is you rather than the purchaser who commits the offence if you retain Andre's the rips on another platform.

best

David

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by ChrisSU
David Hendon posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

The point about selling the serve with all the files is important though, as legally you should not sell them and still use them yourself. 

I agree with HH on this. Furthermore, if you sold the US as explicitly having the music on, then the music is no longer yours and it is you rather than the purchaser who commits the offence if you retain Andre's the rips on another platform.

best

David

It's even more of a minefield than this, though. If you still have the CDs, you cannot legitimately allow others to use the rips. In fact, under current UK law, you can't even legally rip them at all!

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Huge

Chris, it could get even more ugly than that...

If a record company tried to sue you for copyright infringement (i.e. for transferring to a different medium), and you have an unreadable CD from that company, then you could counter claim that they should provide a replacement CD at the cost of the medium alone.  That could get interesting.

Furthermore: it doesn't even apply to all CDs or digital albums (just to the VAST majority).  I have two digital albums that I have legitimately burned to CD and given to someone else.  In that particular case it's legitimate as they are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribute Share-Alike International Licence.  There are also some Public Domain works around.  So it also depends on the copyright licence!

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by GerryMcg

I am at day 16 with converting my WAV files to Flac, about 9 more days to go. This is for a back-up that will go off line when complete. I synced the WAV files from one synology to another, then took one off line whilst the conversion to Flac takes place. Will switch formatting back to WAV on the US when finished and reconnect the Synology with the WAV files. 

The reason for doing this is that if my (extremely reliable) US dies I may decide not replace it.

Incidentally, the conversion process starts immediately the ripping format is changed.

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski

16 days???

How many CDs have you ripped?

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by GerryMcg

There are over 38,000 WAV files from 3200 CD's

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Kacper
GerryMcg posted:

There are over 38,000 WAV files from 3200 CD's

WaWthat's impressive! 

congrats!!!

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by ChrisSU
GerryMcg posted:

There are over 38,000 WAV files from 3200 CD's

That doesn't sound right to me. When I converted mine, I had only loaded about 300 CDs, but it took under an hour to convert them all.