Vodka dissection

Ardbeg10y posted:

Adam Zielinski posted:

Now... that's much better...

You were saying...?

If it leally good boddka one eannot determinne whele it is made flom ...

 ... hips...

... back to tessts ...

Cheers to that! Tonight - a nice shot of Hibiki 12 years old....

Huge posted:

Vodka Dissection...

40% Ethanol
60% Water
Other components in trace amounts.

While I have my preferences for wine, whiskey, whisky and beers, for vodka I've always treated it as you've described -- 40% ethanol, 60% water.  I'm not a vodka aficionado.  

Adam Zielinski posted:

Ardbeg10y posted:

Adam Zielinski posted:

Now... that's much better...

You were saying...?

If it leally good boddka one eannot determinne whele it is made flom ...

 ... hips...

... back to tessts ...

Cheers to that! Tonight - a nice shot of Hibiki 12 years old....

The Japanese whiskies are getting quite hard to get in the States, especially the 17/18 yr olds.  I rather enjoy them.

"Japanese whiskies" - I'm not going to react to that blasphemy

Allan frae Scotland

The OP seems to have degenerated ... hic ...hic

Allan Milne posted:

 

"Japanese whiskies" - I'm not going to react to that blasphemy

 

Allan frae Scotland

Even stranger, one of the top single malts, at several competitions, is from China................what's the world coming to, ken.

Allan Milne posted:

 

"Japanese whiskies" - I'm not going to react to that blasphemy

 

Allan frae Scotland

I shall now wash my mouth with a glass of 21 year old Aultmore... a rather splendid tipple I must say.

Adam - indeed it is.

More blasphemy - I am sure I remember reading a few years ago that the majority of whisky distilled in Scotland is sent in great big bulk tankers to Japan for Suntori !

Allan Milne posted:

 

"Japanese whiskies" - I'm not going to react to that blasphemy

 

Allan frae Scotland

Cheers Allan!  I visited Scotland for the first time this summer -- we had a lovely time!  My daughter graduated from St. Andrews University.  We were in Rothes for the Brexit vote.  No one told us that it might rain, and we missed our appointment at Macallan due to heavy rain forcing a road closure.  But we also stayed in Oban . . . and visited a few other distilleries.

The products are entirely different, but with no genuine apologies I can state that I enjoy the products of both Scotland as well as Japan. 'Tis a shame that the Japanese don't have a different word from "whiskey."

I haven't heard the Vodka cable and so wouldn't dream of commenting on its audio capability.

But I do have a question: even if I buy million-pound ethernet cables made from platinum mined on Venus by unicorns, and their audio quality is superb . . . I'm still sticking them into a £20 Netgear switch which is wired internally with copper made from old dustbins and scaffolding (it's possible the exactitudes of metallurgy aren't my strongest suit). So whatever wonderfulness the cables might have had will surely be crushed like a fine Grand Cru being mixed with lemonade, won't it?

Hungryhalibut posted:

People can dissect the Vodka cables, put them through an MRI machine, study them under an electron microscope and assess them against every Cat standard there is, and it says absolutely nothing about what impact they make, or don't make, on the sound of one's music. The fact that these cables 'shouldn't' make a difference 'because bits are bits' is irrelevant to what they do in the real world. We all accept that one Beaujolais cru tastes different from another because of differences in terroir. Do we need a chemical analysis before believeing what our tastebuds tell us? So why do we need to know the exact reasons why these cables make a difference? Why can't we just trust our ears? 

they did test with lots of ears as well....

Hungryhalibut posted:

......................    So why do we need to know the exact reasons why these cables make a difference? Why can't we just trust our ears? 

...........  because some people ask  "why" & others ask "how"

Solid Air posted:

I haven't heard the Vodka cable and so wouldn't dream of commenting on its audio capability.

But I do have a question: even if I buy million-pound ethernet cables made from platinum mined on Venus by unicorns, and their audio quality is superb . . . I'm still sticking them into a £20 Netgear switch which is wired internally with copper made from old dustbins and scaffolding (it's possible the exactitudes of metallurgy aren't my strongest suit). So whatever wonderfulness the cables might have had will surely be crushed like a fine Grand Cru being mixed with lemonade, won't it?

That's why you get a posh switch, though. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Solid Air posted:

I haven't heard the Vodka cable and so wouldn't dream of commenting on its audio capability.

But I do have a question: even if I buy million-pound ethernet cables made from platinum mined on Venus by unicorns, and their audio quality is superb . . . I'm still sticking them into a £20 Netgear switch which is wired internally with copper made from old dustbins and scaffolding (it's possible the exactitudes of metallurgy aren't my strongest suit). So whatever wonderfulness the cables might have had will surely be crushed like a fine Grand Cru being mixed with lemonade, won't it?

That's why you get a posh switch, though. 

Yup, and at least an iFi Power Supply on the posh switch.

Next you'll be saying in need a dedicated connection to the CU.

What comes next, running your very own dedicated power station for the HiFi?

(N.B.  I'm not actually arguing against a dedicated radial circuit for audio - that's actually a good principle.)

Those little ipower supplies make a worthwhile difference with the Netgear 105 switches, but the 'posh' Cisco one that Simon recommended has its own internal power supply. So no tweaking is possible, other than a Powerline of course, ha ha. 

Hi Nigel, the following Cisco Catalyst 2960PD-8TT-L takes an off board 48 volt, 300mA DC supply - so you can use third party power supplies on that particular device if you wish.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Those little ipower supplies make a worthwhile difference with the Netgear 105 switches, but the 'posh' Cisco one that Simon recommended has its own internal power supply. So no tweaking is possible, other than a Powerline of course, ha ha. 

Thanks HH, I'm going to replace my powersupplies with these iFi devices all the way along the chain from the incoming fiber modem, the 2 TP link routers and the Raspberry Pi - possibly even more devices.

Likewise thanks for the recommendation HH, I'll do likewise with my GS105.

I have to plead guilty to starting the craze for iFi iPower SMPS on Netgear switches. ............   https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...ver-from-hifi-corner   .............   As you can see I was very impressed with the stability of the iPower with no load & underload,  always a good sign.   

... and it fits the Christmaspresentsbudget!

I'll give my wife 2 of them.

Ardbeg10y posted:

... and it fits the Christmaspresentsbudget!

I'll give my wife 2 of them.

I suspect she'll give you a cast iron skillet in return!  And NOT "under the tree."

Ardbeg10y posted:

... and it fits the Christmaspresentsbudget!

I'll give my wife 2 of them.

Two! She's a very lucky girl. I am sure she will be very grateful. 

Mike-B posted:

I have to plead guilty to starting the craze for iFi iPower SMPS on Netgear switches. ............   https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...ver-from-hifi-corner   .............   As you can see I was very impressed with the stability of the iPower with no load & underload,  always a good sign.   

Sorry Mike I must have missed that.  It was at a time when I was rather wuzzy, like as now, & for the same reason.

No probs Huge,  just don't send hate mail if it doesn't work out (but I know it will)     Have you read the iFi technical blurb ?? 

I'm sure you must have something somewhere to wash down & help the wuzzy thing.