System Pics 2017

Hungryhalibut posted:

With the Fono plugged in, it's sounding very good indeed. As it's going through the main system I had the performance pack added. Goodness knows what difference it makes, as nothing is run in, but it seems a good idea, and the Bias 2 matches the plinth beautifully. It's a long time a record spun in this house, and it's great to have the ability to play them again. 

What became of the green Rega decks ?

I believe the previous 3 & 6 was available green coloured shortly

Maybe they needed a matched cartridge colour, the yellow would look a bit odd

It looks much better on my gloss black

Blue is rather seldom

Maybe someone can assist in uploading some green deck pics, for unknown reason I cant provide pics

Btw, I recall the Bias really needed some run-in hours

There you go, Kermit-the-Frog green Rega Planar decks, one with a clashing green cartridge and purple mat, not that I own one. 

But why? I used to own a black one but personally I prefer HH's red version

Ewemon has clearly missed Kermit's new release. I understand it is available on vinyl and sounds best on a green Rega deck.

Hungryhalibut posted:

With the Fono plugged in, it's sounding very good indeed. As it's going through the main system I had the performance pack added. Goodness knows what difference it makes, as nothing is run in, but it seems a good idea, and the Bias 2 matches the plinth beautifully. It's a long time a record spun in this house, and it's great to have the ability to play them again. 

Now that's what I call a 21st century system, streaming plus vinyl. You go into any independent record store these days and its wall to wall LPs.

The red looks gorgeous. What living room isn't enhanced by a record player?

Where are the bronze cones, by the way?

Keith

Bonuspoint for listing the full setup. 

Isn't it in your profile?

Mikie711 posted:

New to the forum so thought I would post a pic of my system. LP 12 started life as a Majik before getting Lingo 3, Ekos SE, Kore and Tramp 2. My original amp was a Rega Elex-R with an Aria phone stage which was good but decided that Naim was the way to go. So, bit of hunting on the used market and 202/200 with NAPSC and HiCap DR, stage line with HiCap all driving Dynaudio X38 which I already had. Still getting used to the change, only all been up and running for a little under a week but added the DR and moved the other HiCap onto the stageline today so I guess time will tell.

 

Excellent system! Love the speakers, of course I'm a little biased, as I also am an owner of the same speakers, only in rosewood veneer. I must say I auditioned many speakers from Proac, Neat, Kudos, Spendor, B&W, Sonus, Atohm, Focal, to name a few, these just sounded so special in my room, the scale, transparency, and authority is just amazing, they actually sound as if another octave of sound was missing from some of the other 2 way and 2 1/2 way speakers I had auditioned. That dedicated mid range driver makes a huge difference.  Just a great sounding speaker with Naim electronics that put some other highly regarded speakers to shame.

Three questions if you dont mind.1.do they ecxcell at low levells.2.would you recomend them for clasic and baroque music.3.how close to the wall can they stand without begining to boom.question to badlands  about x38 thanks.by the way my limit to backwall is max 30 cm what do yoy think.

varyat posted:

Isn't it in your profile?

 

 

That would be cheating ;-)

leni v posted:

Three questions if you dont mind.1.do they ecxcell at low levells.2.would you recomend them for clasic and baroque music.3.how close to the wall can they stand without begining to boom.question to badlands  about x38 thanks.by the way my limit to backwall is max 30 cm what do yoy think.

Hi leni v I have the Dynaudio X32 the next one down from the X38 the same speaker without the dedicated mid driver and just a tweeter and twin bass/mid drivers. I do not listen to Baroque music but do listen to a a bit of classical and  a lot of movie soundtracks the X32 sound excellent they and the X38's have rear ports with foam bungs so you can have them quite close to the walls 30 cm would be okay with the bungs in.

I can reiterate they are a great match with Naim and if I were to upgrade it would be for the X38'S.

Thanks bob.

leni v posted:

Three questions if you dont mind.1.do they ecxcell at low levells.2.would you recomend them for clasic and baroque music.3.how close to the wall can they stand without begining to boom.question to badlands  about x38 thanks.by the way my limit to backwall is max 30 cm what do yoy think.

I would say they don't sound bad at low levels, other speakers do better in this regard,  so no they don't excel at low level listening, at medium to higher levels they just sound amazing, that is where they really start to pull ahead of other speakers,  though they do need some current, NAP 200-SN2 would be minimum in my opinion.

I don't listen to classical or baroque, but the speakers are very transparent and fast sounding, dynamics and scale are some of the best I have heard, they can play loud without strain or compression, so I believe they would sound great with that type of music. But that would be a guesstimate.

30 cm is about 12 inches, not ideal, Dynaudio recommends about 20 inches from any wall as a minimum, and that the side and back walls are not of the same distance from the speaker, but this is a generic recommendation, as each room is different of course, which they most definitely make the point in the manual, but 12 inches definitely would work, mine are eleven inches from the back wall and sound very authoritative and powerful, I get very little boom, different cables and toe in helped me in this regard, the speakers respond well to very little movement, so 1/4 of an inch can make a pretty significant difference to the overall sound. The speakers are supplied with foam inserts if you really have a bass boom problem, the downside is that they also take away some of the attack of the bass response.

The above is my experience in my room, audition if you can in your room. If they work, they are a real pleasure to listen to, I hope this has helped. In my room they sounded better than some very highly regarded and more expensive speakers, even from the same brand,  that are recommended here on this forum, but speakers are very personal, so take my recommendations with a word of caution.

Bob the Builder posted:

leni v posted:

Three questions if you dont mind.1.do they ecxcell at low levells.2.would you recomend them for clasic and baroque music.3.how close to the wall can they stand without begining to boom.question to badlands  about x38 thanks.by the way my limit to backwall is max 30 cm what do yoy think.

Hi leni v I have the Dynaudio X32 the next one down from the X38 the same speaker without the dedicated mid driver and just a tweeter and twin bass/mid drivers.

I can reiterate they are a great match with Naim and if I were to upgrade it would be for the X38'S.

Hello Bob,

Very much agree with your reply, just a couple things I would like to add.

The X32, now the X34 is a much improved speaker over the older Excite models. Impedance and all drivers were much improved, as were the crossovers with the newer Excite line. Also, the X32, and the newer X34 are not the same speaker as the X38 without the mid range driver. Sensitivity is higher on the X38, 88 to 86, almost a 3db difference, also the two bass drivers used in the X38 are 18cm as opposed to 14cm in the X32-X34 speakers. So, much different and larger drivers used in the X38 than in the lower model. Just an FYI.  

nigelb posted:

There you go, Kermit-the-Frog green Rega Planar decks, one with a clashing green cartridge and purple mat, not that I own one. 

But why? I used to own a black one but personally I prefer HH's red version

Ewemon has clearly missed Kermit's new release. I understand it is available on vinyl and sounds best on a green Rega deck.

 

Here is my RP3, this green is pretty much like Lotus own Scandal Green

Regards 

Roberto

Mikie711 posted:

New to the forum so thought I would post a pic of my system. LP 12 started life as a Majik before getting Lingo 3, Ekos SE, Kore and Tramp 2. My original amp was a Rega Elex-R with an Aria phone stage which was good but decided that Naim was the way to go. So, bit of hunting on the used market and 202/200 with NAPSC and HiCap DR, stage line with HiCap all driving Dynaudio X38 which I already had. Still getting used to the change, only all been up and running for a little under a week but added the DR and moved the other HiCap onto the stageline today so I guess time will tell.

 

Very nice system. Your LP2 is what I aspire to, although I'm not familiar with your cartridge.

Have you considered either putting the Lingo or the Hi-Caps on the LP Cubes? Then you can put the amps on separate shelves.

Keith

Also, is move the NAPSC as for away from the system, probably on the floor. It's renowned for being electrically noisy and won't be doing the Stageline any favours.

KRM posted:

(...) the NAPSC (...) it's renowned for being electrically noisy (...).

Let's hear Adam M.'s opinion... 

M

KRM posted:

Mikie711 posted:

 

Very nice system. Your LP2 is what I aspire to, although I'm not familiar with your cartridge.

Have you considered either putting the Lingo or the Hi-Caps on the LP Cubes? Then you can put the amps on separate shelves.

Keith

I agree with Keith (also nice system), but would be more specific about placement. The 202 should not be stacked on top of the 200, and should be kept as far away from everything with transformers as possible. Likewise the phonostage (Stageline) which should be as far from the cartridge and power supplies as possible, particularly if used with a low output MC.

Good placement stops the delicate signals being strangled by transformers and the poweramp. Also consider powering everything from a single point and ideally a dedicated radial rather than using what looks to be two double sockets on a ring main.

Is the Linn box beneath the TT a power supply to the TT motor? If so, see what Linn have to say about its placement. It could go on a separate socket to the other stuff.

Phil

Adam Meredith posted:

Filipe posted:

Likewise the phonostage (Stageline) which should be as far from the cartridge and power supplies as possible, particularly if used with a low output MC.

Yes, but, except - the Stageline doesn't contain (in and of itself) a power supply but receives DC from without.

The, essentially similar, Prefix is mounted within an LP12 - just under the armboard.

So it can be closer to the cartridge. I use an Aria which cannot be close.

TOBYJUG posted:

DrMark posted:

Clive B posted:

Highest WTF ever?

 

I'd rather have those than the originals

I have not ever seen Robot speakers before, can they be programmed to make Coffee?... 

Adam Meredith posted:

Max_B posted:

KRM posted:

(...) the NAPSC (...) it's renowned for being electrically noisy (...).

Let's hear Adam M.'s opinion... 

M

Very happy to oblige - from the Lot. 

and

A Daffy Canard

... likely to have arisen when preamplfiers housed phono stages and customers plonked their NAPSCs on top for want of a spare shelf.

So, putting it next to the phonostge is still questionable? Either way, it's dead easy to do and see if it helps. Moving the Hi-Caps and putting amps on separate shelves is the big one.

Filipe posted:

Adam Meredith posted:

Filipe posted:

Likewise the phonostage (Stageline) which should be as far from the cartridge and power supplies as possible, particularly if used with a low output MC.

Yes, but, except - the Stageline doesn't contain (in and of itself) a power supply but receives DC from without.

The, essentially similar, Prefix is mounted within an LP12 - just under the armboard.

So it can be closer to the cartridge. I use an Aria which cannot be close.

One thought about DC: although the power supply provides constant voltage, the current demands of the phonostage are proportional to the amplified signal's energy (an alternating field with the frequency components of the sound). So although the massive mains frequency electromagnetic field from the transformer won't be near the cartridge, there will be some electromagnetic coupling between the power input and the cartridge. Distance diminishes this.

Thanks badlands everything was covered nicely

wenger2015 posted:

 

 

I'd rather have those than the originals

I have not ever seen Robot speakers before, can they be programmed to make Coffee?... 

Are they the mother and father of Johny 5 ? : )

naim_nymph posted:

wenger2015 posted:

 

 

I'd rather have those than the originals

I have not ever seen Robot speakers before, can they be programmed to make Coffee?... 

Are they the mother and father of Johny 5 ? : )

Definitely a resemblance.....

thanks for the feed back about positioning which I will experiment with, already bought one extra shelf and was thinking I should have gotten another to separate the 202 from the 200. The "box' under the LP12 is a Lingo 3 motor power supply not sure what Linn recommends regards placement but will check that out also. All these tips may help explain some of the, frankly, disappointing results so far with this set up.

Incidentally, that room has it's own independent ring in the fuse box which could easily be turned into a radial as there are only 3 dbl sockets in the ring and the other one has nothing plugged in.