N-Stream vs Kinsky vs Bubble

I was not aware that there were other apps than the Naim app to control my Naim gear ...

Please tell me more ...

Bubble upnp and Kinsky are both in the Google Play Store and probably Apple too but I don't use that.  Upnplay also works. 

Type in upnp dlna player and a number will come up 

JSH posted:

... N-Stream is rounder and fuller. 

No, that would be Bubble UPnP

can the control point affect sound?

NO !

Nope - the control point does not affect sound quality. Try asking someone else to use each one and see if you can tell any difference 'blind'. You won't be able to. Once the instruction has been sent to the NAS by the control point, you can turn off your phone altogether - so clearly there's no effect.

OP, is the NAS in question a UnitiServe? If not, why are you using Nserve as opposed to the Naim app with a UQ2?

Regardless, sweet dreams

I have used my NDS with and without the app and there is no difference in the presentation. I don't think there can be since the signal doesn't go anywhere near it. However, I didn't know that Kinsky could operate it. I suppose the volume control won't work?  Might check it out.

Thanks. I will do another set of sound tests

Daves**t.  The NAS is a WD.  I use N-Stream, not N Serve, as my original post said.

Jan-Erik.  You say that the Controller cannot affect SQ, which is what I thought.  But you also say that Bubble would be rounder and fuller than N-Stream, which seems to imply that it would affect SQ. So I am confused, but there is nothing new there!

Hi JSH,  when you say n-Stream,  do you mean the current Naim app with the black logo as found in the Google store.   (n-Stream was the old olive coloured  app - (& much missed) )

I have Kinsky loaded on my iPad as a backup to the Naim app .   Its a nice simple & easy to use & in a lot of respects is better than Naim,  but does not give me iRadio or other services including system automation links with my amp to provide FM tuner & TV links all with  volume control,   so I only use it occasionally.       I have not noticed any SQ variation & would not expect to as the UPnP system is a communication enabler,  it does not carry the data stream between devices.

the control point is simply telling the server to dish files to the renderer, it cannot possibly effect sound. end.

JSH posted:

Thanks. I will do another set of sound tests

Daves**t.  The NAS is a WD.  I use N-Stream, not N Serve, as my original post said.

Jan-Erik.  You say that the Controller cannot affect SQ, which is what I thought.  But you also say that Bubble would be rounder and fuller than N-Stream, which seems to imply that it would affect SQ. So I am confused, but there is nothing new there!

My mistake, a typo, I meant N-stream. The point, though, was that N-Stream isn't for controlling the UnitiQute, it's for other, older hardware. The Naim app, the one Mike describes, is the one designed for the UQ. Maybe N-Stream works, but if that is what you're using, you may want to try the Naim app.

Jan-Erik was just making a joke about bubbles being round.

Sorry Jan-Erik; I had a sense of humour by-pass there!!

Daves**t; I use the Naim app from the Google store which is the black background one, which I had erroneously thought was N-Stream. 

I really did think the Kinsky sounded different but I will listen again tonight.  You all seem to be certain that the Controller cannot affect SQ, which is what I thought

Perhaps the answer is more red wine before listening!

JSH

Last night, I installed Kinsky on my iPad. It could see my music collection on my NAS, but could not find my mu-so Qb ...

JSH posted:

 

Perhaps the answer is more red wine before listening!

That's always the answer

FWIW I think Bubble is a significantly better app than the (Android) Naim app at what it does.  Stability, the availability of a mini player in the notifications drawer, hardware button volume control, the ease of refreshing the library and so on are all ahead of the Naim app.

But it can't control iradio, input switching, and the more subtle niceties like the Naim app can.  Damn.

+1 on that Davesh**t.  I use Naim for radio and Bibble for NAS content at the moment.  Going to listen to Kinsky again tonight

I tried Kazoo a while ago, but haven't tried Kinsky.  If it's good, do let us know.  Presumably, though, it doesn't help with the non-NAS type stuff?

BTW, the stars in my forum name stand for Hun, the first three letters of my surname.  Nothing to do with effluent.  If that's how people are reading it, I feel a bit like Humphrey Lyttleton.  Perhaps I'll change it.

I believe Kazoo is the Linn App you want, because Kinksky is no longer supported and superceded by Kazoo.

Kazoo is definitely the app to use, not Kinsky.

Bear in mind that (unlike) the Naim app, Kazoo is also available for Windows 10 devices. I personally prefer the Naim app for iPad to the kazoo or Lumin equivalents, but Kazoo on Windows (PC) is my favourite control app of all.

Kazoo doesn't find my Qute.  Kinsky does. Dunno why.  Put it down to Linn/Naim conflict