Sherlock ?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 02 January 2017

I found this first episode of the three  to be a total disappointment, very poor story line, poor narrative, even boarding on ridiculous, thatcher busts getting a bashing possibly the only highlight...

Not even inclined to watch the next one...is it just me or am I expecting to much?

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by Finkfan

I wasn't impressed either [@mention:50422349809511500]. I prefer Elementary 

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by wenger2015
Finkfan posted:

I wasn't impressed either [@mention:50422349809511500]. I prefer Elementary 

Agree with you completely....

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by Eloise

Well I enjoyed it. Just don't expect an Arthur Conan Doyle drama. 

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by GraemeH

We watch it with our 13 yo and she enjoys it immensely. We treat it a a bit of light family viewing - unchallenging with no 'awkward' moments...Which is more than can be said for 'Witness for the Prosecution'. Said daughter enjoys a Marple but the sight of a heaving Toby Jones was ...erm...'unexpected' to say the least!

G

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by Eloise
GraemeH posted:

We watch it with our 13 yo and she enjoys it immensely. We treat it a a bit of light family viewing - unchallenging with no 'awkward' moments...

No family here but feel similar, entertaining light viewing ... not everything has to be challenging, deep or meaningful.

Which is more than can be said for 'Witness for the Prosecution'. Said daughter enjoys a Marple but the sight of a heaving Toby Jones was ...erm...'unexpected' to say the least!

I do hope you've educated her with the real Miss Marple, not that Geraldine McEwan / Julia McKenzie tosh (not the actors fault at all). Did enjoy Witness though: classic Christie with some nice twists and unexpected moments and got well to the heart of the motivations of John Meyhew's belief in Leonard Vole.

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by wenger2015

Everyone to their own....but personally expected a better storyline,  maybe it's filmed more for the younger generation... 

Posted on: 02 January 2017 by JRHardee

It's so self referential and self absorbed, it seems to be disappearing up its own.... I'll give the next episode the courtesy of a look, but I have my doubts.

Posted on: 03 January 2017 by tonym

We watched it last night, and both really enjoyed it, good fun. I'd like to think I'm still part of the younger generation...

Posted on: 03 January 2017 by Paper Plane

We were somewhat underwhelmed here at PP Towers. The "Mary as mercenary" element was a bit too much to swallow and the fight in the swimming pool both overlong and unfeasible.

Will give the rest of the series a watch but not expecting much.

steve

Posted on: 03 January 2017 by wenger2015
Paper Plane posted:

We were somewhat underwhelmed here at PP Towers. The "Mary as mercenary" element was a bit too much to swallow and the fight in the swimming pool both overlong and unfeasible.

Will give the rest of the series a watch but not expecting much.

steve

Nicely summarised,  as you say low expectations 

Posted on: 03 January 2017 by dayjay

My wife and I watched it with our 13 year old son and we rather enjoyed it although I would agree it was not as well written as the early series.  Plus any programme that has Thatcher busts being smashed up Is off to a goood start in my book.

Posted on: 03 January 2017 by naim_nymph

IMO Homes and Watson belong to the Victorian era.

This contemporary adaptation is the most boringly awful version of Homes and Watson i've ever had the misfortune to sit and watch an hour of...

Okay, i must be at least middle-aged then,

with me records and wind-up gramophone 

Debs

 

 

Posted on: 04 January 2017 by Bart

My wife and I just happened upon it last night here on BBC Americas when randomly looking to kill some time watching TV.  We got a few laughs, and thought it moderately entertaining.  I'd not seen Elementary or other prior series, so don't have any frame of comparison.  Might watch the next episode . . . 

Posted on: 04 January 2017 by Eloise
naim_nymph posted:

IMO Homes and Watson belong to the Victorian era.

This contemporary adaptation is the most boringly awful version of Homes and Watson i've ever had the misfortune to sit and watch an hour of... 

You prefer the Basil Rathbone movies...?

Posted on: 04 January 2017 by wenger2015

I think the issue is with the writing,  it's a good concept but needs better storylines...

Posted on: 04 January 2017 by naim_nymph
Eloise posted:
naim_nymph posted:

IMO Homes and Watson belong to the Victorian era.

This contemporary adaptation is the most boringly awful version of Homes and Watson i've ever had the misfortune to sit and watch an hour of... 

You prefer the Basil Rathbone movies...?

Good ol' Baz was very masterful with the pipe and fairly convincing in an upright camp kind of way.

however, i rather dig those Jeremy Brett episodes  

Posted on: 05 January 2017 by TOBYJUG

Anyone notice what looks like a Harbeth or Spendor speaker sitting on the hearth in his sitting room, must be an old BBC mono job.

Posted on: 05 January 2017 by tonym

Looks like an old Wharfdale to me, maybe a Denton?

Posted on: 05 January 2017 by Romi

I stopped watching Sherlock when the style of story telling has changed to quick takes, so called clever dialogue, same has happened with Dr Who.  I mentioned this to a colleague at work and she confirmed that the same person involved with Sherlock does Dr Who.  If this is true, then because of this persons contribution I stopped watching Dr Who and Sherlock for quite some time now.  What happened to traditional story telling where there was mystery, tension, drama and good acting?  I don't want knowing clever scenes, leave that to Hollywood!

Posted on: 05 January 2017 by wenger2015
Romi posted:

I stopped watching Sherlock when the style of story telling has changed to quick takes, so called clever dialogue, same has happened with Dr Who.  I mentioned this to a colleague at work and she confirmed that the same person involved with Sherlock does Dr Who.  If this is true, then because of this persons contribution I stopped watching Dr Who and Sherlock for quite some time now.  What happened to traditional story telling where there was mystery, tension, drama and good acting?  I don't want knowing clever scenes, leave that to Hollywood!

I know things have to be brought up to date, but I have to agree with you.......theirs a lot to be said for mystery, drama, tension ....

Posted on: 05 January 2017 by Sloop John B

We have watched Sherlock as a family for a few years now and it was one of only 3 things that 2 x early 50s and 3 x early 20s watched. 

My daughter did say at the end there was no mystery solved but on balance we all enjoyed it and I'm always thankful for something we all watch an enjoy. Also thought the Dr. Who was quite good, another one watched by all 5 chez Sloop. 

Not to keep you all in suspense as the the third piece of communal viewing, we have developed a tradition of a B&W Christmas Eve movie and this year it was the 1951 Scrooge. For children used to CGI the special effects did cause some hilarity, but you can't beat a good story. 

 

SJB. 

Posted on: 06 January 2017 by wenger2015
Sloop John B posted:

We have watched Sherlock as a family for a few years now and it was one of only 3 things that 2 x early 50s and 3 x early 20s watched. 

My daughter did say at the end there was no mystery solved but on balance we all enjoyed it and I'm always thankful for something we all watch an enjoy. Also thought the Dr. Who was quite good, another one watched by all 5 chez Sloop. 

Not to keep you all in suspense as the the third piece of communal viewing, we have developed a tradition of a B&W Christmas Eve movie and this year it was the 1951 Scrooge. For children used to CGI the special effects did cause some hilarity, but you can't beat a good story. 

 

SJB. 

To keep me interested, as you rightly say...you do need a good story.... ....

Posted on: 06 January 2017 by Loki
wenger2015 posted:

I found this first episode of the three  to be a total disappointment, very poor story line, poor narrative, even boarding on ridiculous, thatcher busts getting a bashing possibly the only highlight...

Not even inclined to watch the next one...is it just me or am I expecting to much?

 

 

 

 

It's just you. It was awesome, and I fell asleep in the middle (an excess of earthly pleasures culminating in an exceedingly intoxicatingly Armagnac)!

Posted on: 06 January 2017 by Loki
tonym posted:

Looks like an old Wharfdale to me, maybe a Denton?

I spotted the Denton XP2 s too, not that family were remotely interested in my joyous outburst. Solid wood cabinets and blue surround tweeters! Before Wharfedale sold themselves down the Laser river.

Posted on: 08 January 2017 by TOBYJUG

Watching right now and like the art savant flow, but wondering when Sherlock's going to reach in his pocket for the Sonic Screwdriver !