Phono Amps

I use a phono box s between a debut carbon and an xs2. Sounds great to me. 

Thank you all for sharing this info. I plan to get TT with bundled  2M Silver cart and maybe later upgrade to Black. Quite impressive if Phono box S keeps up in LP12 setup.

I have tried to source a 240 deg  5 pin DIN to twin RCA,  for the Phono input,  have been asked how the 5 pins are wired, any advice would be appreciated.

Myron, for what purpose are you requiring this lead - it's an odd one indeed!! Are you sure about the 240 deg DIN5?

I imagine what you really want is an RCA Phono to DIN5 (180 deg) interconnect.  Loads to choose from, including naim's own, but my recommendation would be a late Chord Chrysalis which is widely available secondhand for not much money, or else, if buying new, Chord Crimson.

Richard

The Phono input socket on the back of the Uniti takes a 240deg Din5 and not a 180, hence the issue, most standard sourced cables seem to be 180 

Description form Manual:  "phono Analogue 240° 5 pin DIN"

I am using this to connect to the "tape out" of my Rega Mira amp in lieu of a Phone Amp to drive an old Rega Planar deck.

regards

Myron

Don't use that socket, it is only for use with the Stageline/Superline/Prefix - it carries 24V DC power as well as taking in signal.  Use one of the RCA inputs.

Richard

A bit confused, as I read in another forum that non of the Naim phono sockets are powered?

No, none of the RCA phono sockets are powered.  Only the 240 degree "AUX" DIN5 socket offers 24v DC power for a suitable Naim phono stage.

You may be confusing the term "Phono" as an input for either an external or internal phono stage and "phono" as a type of connector (RCA phono).

Thanks for the clarification, certainly makes the connection easier and cheaper

DUPREE posted:

I think it is great if you don’t expect the world out of it. It is very good and can provide great performance with that level of cartridge. It is not going to give the excitement and detail of a pre-amp of 3 times the cost. For the money I think it can hang with units that cost significantly more, but certainly there are better units when you want to spend more money.
> On Jan 9, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Naim Audio Forums <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
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Ain't that always the case!

Richard Dane posted:

No, none of the RCA phono sockets are powered.  Only the 240 degree "AUX" DIN5 socket offers 24v DC power for a suitable Naim phono stage.

You may be confusing the term "Phono" as an input for either an external or internal phono stage and "phono" as a type of connector (RCA phono).

Won't be the first time that has caused confusion!  I always say RCA socket and use the phono only for the input/amp.

Don't discount the Stageline just because you have a Rega cart. 

Having bought a Uniti2 and RP6/Exact, I had the opportunity to compare the Stageline and Fono side-by-side.

Stageline was a clear winner- more open and less bright. Try to demo if you can.

nj451 posted:

Don't discount the Stageline just because you have a Rega cart. 

Having bought a Uniti2 and RP6/Exact, I had the opportunity to compare the Stageline and Fono side-by-side.

Stageline was a clear winner- more open and less bright. Try to demo if you can.

Did you powered Stageline from Uniti's powered aux connector or standalone power supply?

nj451 posted:

Don't discount the Stageline just because you have a Rega cart. 

Having bought a Uniti2 and RP6/Exact, I had the opportunity to compare the Stageline and Fono side-by-side.

Stageline was a clear winner- more open and less bright. Try to demo if you can.

+1 I have a Stageline on my SN2 driven by an RP8 Apheta 2 and it's excellent.  I also compared it to a Rega Aria for a week and although the Rega was better in some ways, mainly in sound Stage, I didn't feel it was an upgrade and sent it back.

Does using powered socket on supernait degrades sound quality when using digital source?

Andrius posted:

nj451 posted:

Don't discount the Stageline just because you have a Rega cart. 

Having bought a Uniti2 and RP6/Exact, I had the opportunity to compare the Stageline and Fono side-by-side.

Stageline was a clear winner- more open and less bright. Try to demo if you can.

Did you powered Stageline from Uniti's powered aux connector or standalone power supply?

Yep powered by Uniti2. Still streets ahead of the Fono in my humble opinion.

I used to run a ProJect Debut TT (with Ortofon 2M Blue) using the most basic Pro-Ject phono preamp of the day (less than 150 €) into my UnitiLite a few years ago and was extremely happy with it. 

Andrius posted:

Does using powered socket on supernait degrades sound quality when using digital source?

If it does I haven't noticed to be honest.  I have a Hicap DR on too so maybe that helps?

dayjay posted:

Andrius posted:

Does using powered socket on supernait degrades sound quality when using digital source?

If it does I haven't noticed to be honest.  I have a Hicap DR on too so maybe that helps?

I understand you connected HCDR on SN2 and Stageline to powered aux socket, and not powering Stageline by HCDR directly, yes? Does Stageline includes SNAIC inside? I am curious about that potential sound quality decrease on other inputs, as there were some posts in this forum about such case. My situation is a bit different, as I do not have HC/HCDR on my SN1...

Yes Hicap DR powers the SN2 and the Stageline is connected to the aux socket with din to din cable.  I haven't done a back to back test with the Stageline connected and not connected but I'm pretty sure I would notice a drop off in quality on the other inputs especially as my digital source is my main source and I listen to it daily.

Yes, the Stageline includes a SNAIC 5, so if connecting to a powered AUX socket that's all you need.  However, if you use a dedicated power supply such as a Flatcap or Hicap (or even a Supercap, which is fab, if rather costly) then you'll also need a 4-5 interconnect.

dayjay posted:

Yes Hicap DR powers the SN2 and the Stageline is connected to the aux socket with din to din cable.  I haven't done a back to back test with the Stageline connected and not connected but I'm pretty sure I would notice a drop off in quality on the other inputs especially as my digital source is my main source and I listen to it daily.

I wonder, when you use Stageline (or any other phono stage), do you need to crank the volume knob more to achieve same sound level as compared to CD or DAC?

Yes, the standard for CD output is set at a very high level at 2V.  Most phonos stages output at a more normal line level, obviously dependant upon the output of the cartridge being used.