F1 - 2017

Posted by: Tony2011 on 06 January 2017

The championship has not yet started and it seems the poor Manor Racing is about to go into receivership and be the first casualty of 2017. I wish them well and hope they can find a buyer and be able to compete this season. 

Posted on: 28 June 2017 by Tony2011

FIA statement:

"Following the recent incident at the Azerbaijan Grand Prix in which car #5 (Sebastian Vettel) was involved in a collision with car #44 (Lewis Hamilton), on Monday July 3 the FIA will further examine the causes of the incident in order to evaluate whether further action is necessary.
"A statement regarding the outcome of this process will be made available before the upcoming Austrian Grand Prix."

Remember who  is "in charge" of the FIA. Let's hope for some degree of transparency and impartiality. 

They did not do anything after he(Vettel) told Charlie and Todd to eff off a while ago on live TV. Perhaps a  slap on the other wrist and a fine?

I wonder who  is actually in charge of the FIA?

Posted on: 28 June 2017 by Finkfan

FIA......Ferrari In Authority 

Posted on: 28 June 2017 by Huge

Ferrari International Assistance.

Posted on: 28 June 2017 by thebigfredc

Like many UK F1 fans I too love Ferrari and appreciate their contribution to the sport. The second of Vettels two actions is quite simply indefensible.

Posted on: 29 June 2017 by BigH47
Bananahead posted:

let's not forget that Hamilton would be leading the championship if he hadn't had mechanical problems

Lets not forget LH would have won 2016 World Championship if it wasn't for mechanical problems ie 1 engine failure.

Also as Murray would say IF is F1 backwards.

Posted on: 29 June 2017 by Bananahead
BigH47 posted:
Bananahead posted:

let's not forget that Hamilton would be leading the championship if he hadn't had mechanical problems

Lets not forget LH would have won 2016 World Championship if it wasn't for mechanical problems ie 1 engine failure.

Also as Murray would say IF is F1 backwards.

"Azerbaijan GP was a pleasure 2watch. Why? because adrenaline & emotions were high. What Vettel did was silly but he's been punished. Move on" - Jenson Button

"Indeed JB. In a normal race and w/out @LewisHamilton headrest problem that would have been a significant and deserved penalty." - Martin Brundle

Posted on: 01 July 2017 by Mike-B

Ron Dennis has finally left McLaren - no surprise really - last November he went from chief-exec to a non-exec board member in a boardroom coup by the two principal shareholders, Mumtalakat  (Bahrain investment & asset mngt cmpy) & Mansour Ojjeh, CEO of TAG.   The worsening relationship between RD & Ojjeh was cited as the cause.     RD has now sold his 25% shareholding & resigned from his position on the board.

It begs the question what now for McLaren as they are obviously in a bad place with the Honda partnership to say nothing of the F1 team itself.  Rumours are rife over them ending the Honda agreement ahead of time & to secure a deal with Mercedes with their 'customer' spec engines for the 2018 season.  I guess its watch this space

Posted on: 01 July 2017 by JamieWednesday

And what route will Ron take to get a team of his own into F1?

Posted on: 01 July 2017 by Harry

I'm guessing it won't be with Honda.

Posted on: 01 July 2017 by JamieWednesday

I'm guessing Project 5 will have an oriental flavour.

Posted on: 01 July 2017 by Mike-B

Honda has confirmed the new 'Spec 3'  power unit will be installed for the Austrian GP.     It seems to have added top end speed if nothing else as the tests in Baku show the speed trap speed with the new power unit got to 327km/h compared to 312 km/h with the ‘Spec 2’ unit.     Still some way to go tho' as the fastest speed recorded was 354 km/h by a Force India-Mercedes.  

Sauber have announced a partnership with Honda for 2018    

Posted on: 02 July 2017 by Mike-B

It looks like BRDC will be activating the official break clause for the British (Silverstone) GP & then gamble on renegotiating a new improved contract with Liberty in an attempt to keep hold of the event.     They have until 14 July (the friday of the GP) to activate the break clause & pull out of the contract beyond 2019, or risk the financial liability of hosting the race until 2027. Silverstone's mngt have reluctantly decided that, unless Liberty agree to a new contract the financial risk of continuing as hosts under the existing deal is too great. I'm struggling to understand why & how this should be, Silverstone attracts the F1 worlds biggest crowds over the race weekend & race day itself, ~350,000 over the weekend is >10x the numbers of the some of the 'new.' outside Europe circuits. I guess we will never know but suspect its got some sticky Bernie fingers are in there somewhere.

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Mike-B

Media chatter & a 'leaked' document suggests that FIA have disqualified Vettel from the Baku race so in effect he looses his 4th place & 12 points.  Also that the official announcement will not be made until the Austrian GP this coming weekend. This will leave SV level with LH with 141 points each as LH gains an extra 2 points by moving up to 3rd.   

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Tony2011

Yes, Mike. Lots of speculation in  the international  press. The alleged " leaked document " is also available online. We'll just have to wait for official confirmation and if any further penalties, apart from the Baku disqualification,  will be applied.  I doubt it very much.

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Bananahead

fair result announced now

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Harry

The FIA have announced that no further action will be taken. I think that leak is a hoax.

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Mike-B

Hmm looks like some of Trump's 'False' news     ...............    F1.com, Sky & BBC are now saying   'Formula 1’s governing body, the FIA, is to take no further action over Sebastian Vettel’s clash with Lewis Hamilton in the recent Azerbaijan Grand Prix.'   Vettel has admitted responsibility & apologised.     I must remember that one for next time I get a speeding ticket. 

Posted on: 03 July 2017 by Tony2011

From the FIA :

Paris, July 3 – Following an incident at the recent Azerbaijan Grand Prix involving a collision between Car 5 (Sebastian Vettel) and Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton), Sebastian Vettel was today invited to attend a meeting at the FIA’s Paris headquarters. He was accompanied by his Team Principal Maurizio Arrivabene. He reviewed the incident together with a panel comprised of FIA Deputy President for Sport Graham Stoker, FIA General Secretary for Sport Peter Bayer, FIA Formula One World Championship Race Director Charlie Whiting and FIA Formula One World Championship Deputy Race Director and FIA Safety Director Laurent Mekies.

During the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, stewards officiating at the event issued a 10-second stop-and-go penalty to Sebastian Vettel, the most severe penalty immediately applicable before displaying a black flag notice to the driver. Sebastian Vettel also had three penalty points applied to his FIA Superlicence, taking his current total to nine.

However, while respecting the Stewards’ decision, the FIA remained deeply concerned by the wider implications of the incident, firstly through the impact such behaviour may have on fans and young competitors worldwide and secondly due to the damage such behaviour may cause to the FIA’s image and reputation of the sport.

Following detailed discussion and further examination of video and data evidence related to the incident, Sebastian Vettel admitted full responsibility.

Sebastian Vettel extended his sincere apologies to the FIA and the wider motor sport family. He additionally committed to devote personal time over the next 12 months to educational activities across a variety of FIA championships and events, including in the FIA Formula 2 Championship, the FIA Formula 3 European Championship, at an FIA Formula 4 Championship to be defined and at the FIA Stewards’ seminar. Due to this incident, President Jean Todt instructed that no road safety activities should be endorsed by Sebastian Vettel until the end of this year.

The FIA notes this commitment, the personal apology made by Sebastian Vettel and his pledge to make that apology public. The FIA also notes that Scuderia Ferrari is aligned with the values and objectives of the FIA.

In light of these developments, FIA President Jean Todt decided that on this occasion the matter should be closed.

Nevertheless, in noting the severity of the offence and its potential negative consequences, FIA President Todt made it clear that should there be any repetition of such behaviour, the matter would immediately be referred to the FIA International Tribunal for further investigation.

Commenting on the outcome of today’s meeting, FIA President Jean Todt said: “Top level sport is an intense environment in which tempers can flare. However, it is the role of top sportsmen to deal with that pressure calmly and to conduct themselves in a manner that not only respects the regulations of the sport but which befits the elevated status they enjoy.

“Sportsmen must be cognisant of the impact their behaviour can have on those who look up to them. They are heroes and role models and to millions of fans worldwide and must conduct themselves accordingly.”

 
Posted on: 03 July 2017 by BigH47

Oh he apologised, AGAIN. So that's OK?

Posted on: 04 July 2017 by Tony2011

Don't mess with the family!

Posted on: 06 July 2017 by Mike-B
Mike-B posted:

It looks like BRDC will be activating the official break clause for the British (Silverstone) GP & then gamble on renegotiating a new improved contract with Liberty in an attempt to keep hold of the event.     They have until 14 July (the friday of the GP) to activate the break clause & pull out of the contract beyond 2019, or risk the financial liability of hosting the race until 2027. Silverstone's mngt have reluctantly decided that, unless Liberty agree to a new contract the financial risk of continuing as hosts under the existing deal is too great. I'm struggling to understand why & how this should be, Silverstone attracts the F1 worlds biggest crowds over the race weekend & race day itself, ~350,000 over the weekend is >10x the numbers of the some of the 'new.' outside Europe circuits. I guess we will never know but suspect its got some sticky Bernie fingers are in there somewhere.

Interesting editorial in this mornings www BBC Sport re the sticky Bernie fingers   "..........Bernie Ecclestone had a difficult relationship with Silverstone. Baiting them, criticising the track, its owners the British Racing Drivers' Club and pretty much anything to do with the race was something of a sport for him.   For Ecclestone, this was rooted in Silverstone's inability to pay him the money he wanted to host the race. Not benefiting from the largesse of a government, the BRDC has to make the event work financially, and as Ecclestone's fees went up, that became increasingly difficult.    That is still the core of the problem."

Posted on: 09 July 2017 by Tony2011

Interesting Austrian GP. I won't spoil it for those who have not seen it yet...

Posted on: 09 July 2017 by GraemeH

Vettel's 'One more lap' refrain becoming a catchphrase...Still, getting to the 'racing' a few laps earlier would have been even better. Regardless of the breathless commentary there was never a real prospect of an order change in the last few laps.

Still one of the better races though.

G

Posted on: 09 July 2017 by Harry

Well, one of the better last 10 laps. The rest of the race was nothing.

Posted on: 10 July 2017 by Mike-B

Missed it all,  happy hitting small balls into long grass. 

Re the Bottas 'jump 'start, both Vettel & Ricciardo claim he did, FIA say he didn't.  FIA statement read: "The jump start system judges whether a car has moved a pre-set (very small) distance between the point at which the last red light comes on and the point at which the lights go out.  We have found that need to allow for some very small movement, as drivers sometimes need to make clutch adjustments in preparation for the start. This system, which is dependent on the official timing provided by Formula One, has been in operation for some 20 years and has proved extremely reliable in that time.   In today’s instance, Valtteri Bottas did not exceed this (very small) limit before the start was given"  

It seems he might have got lucky with anticipating the moment the lights went out.  But whatever,   even if he did gain a few cm in track distance,  what went wrong with Vettels start to be so far behind.