Melco owners

Posted by: james n on 10 February 2017

Thought this may be of interest to those who use these machines. It's from an email update from a dealer i'd got earlier this week (rather more informative than Melco's own website !)

Melco are re-launching their N1 music servers with a host of revisions and improvements. All models have been significantly upgraded with a complete new Player/Renderer, Dedicated USB port for USB DAC's (UAC2 compatable), completely redesigned and upgraded power supplies, plus improved internal wiring and hardware (based around the 40th Anniversary N1Z model).

Of more interest to me is -

A significant new firmware (including the new Player/Renderer) will be launched to coincide with the release of the new models which will also be available to existing Melco owners.

One year on and i'm still very impressed with my N1A - as a USB source it's been superb and very easy to live with and use. 

James

Posted on: 07 March 2017 by james n

Ah Ok - we're using our Melco's slightly differently. Very strange yours keeps dropping out - have you contacted Alan at Melco for help ?

 

Posted on: 08 March 2017 by tonym

No dropout problems with mine either before I converted to Minimserver. I don't use my Melco for ripping simply because it's more convenient to rip on my iMac using DbPoweramp, but I have tried the Melco's ripping arrangement using a Samsung drive & it works well. There's been lots of discussion around what gives the best rip & having listened to rips from various sources using the same CD I'm content that bits is bits - unless something's faulty you'll get a good rip from either Naim, Melco, or Mac/PC.

Posted on: 08 March 2017 by David O'Higgins

Tony, the advantage of using US over Melco as a ripper is that you can simply edit the metadata using N-Serve on Ipad. Also, the rip is automatic as soon as you put the disc in the slot, as opposed to having to push some fiddly buttons and squint at a small display.

James, it was acknowledged to me some months ago that Melco was aware of some drop-out problem, but I didn't pursue it, as Minimserver has proven quite robust. I may take it up with them again, but where to get the time.......?

Posted on: 09 March 2017 by tonym

I seldom edit the metadata, but if I do I simply do it on the iMac, using Jaikoz.

Posted on: 10 March 2017 by Emre

I am interested in melco our similar device, I like to maximizer my 272

Core vs zenith vs melco any Ideas? 

Also a model vs z model, how do they compare SQ Wise?  Is the sad only Difference? 

Any comments on mk2s?

Posted on: 11 March 2017 by Dave J

If I was starting over, I'd buy an Innuos. 

Posted on: 11 March 2017 by Clay Bingham
Dave J posted:

If I was starting over, I'd buy an Innuos. 

Dave

Care to share some more of your thinking here? It would be helpful for those of us still doing our research.

Thx

 

Posted on: 12 March 2017 by French Rooster
Dave J posted:

If I was starting over, I'd buy an Innuos. 

 

Dave J posted:

If I was starting over, I'd buy an Innuos. 

can you tell why? i see a melco in your profile. Perhaps you are  not satisfied with the ripping solution of the melco?

Posted on: 12 March 2017 by ChrisSU

I was looking at some Innuos boxes yesterday, and if I didn't already have a Unitiserve, I might have been tempted. The entry level Zen is £700 (1TB) or £800 (2TB) and they essentially seem to do the same things a Unitiserve will do. I liked the fact that the controller is browser based, so works on any phone, tablet or computer.

Posted on: 12 March 2017 by Dave J

 I bought my Melco after comparing it to the NAS that I was using (and still use as a back up) at the time. It was, and is, clearly a step ahead and extremely convenient however that was before the arrival of Innuos,  which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. The price of the latest Melco range is pushing it out of contention sadly. I still think it's a great product but it's no longer top of the pile.

Posted on: 12 March 2017 by French Rooster
Dave J posted:

 I bought my Melco after comparing it to the NAS that I was using (and still use as a back up) at the time. It was, and is, clearly a step ahead and extremely convenient however that was before the arrival of Innuos,  which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. The price of the latest Melco range is pushing it out of contention sadly. I still think it's a great product but it's no longer top of the pile.

unfortunately i found no information on this forum or reviews by hifi critic, ear or hifi news which can tell that the innuos zenith is better than the melco. perhaps for just ripping. Why you say that?  and why say that the innuos have a better software than melco?   i am very curious. I would like to upgrade my unitserve/ tp ps, but can't find for the moment.

the melco and innuos zenith are a bit soft and less dynamic than unitserve/ nds/ ethernet mode. The core appeared for me a bin thin and in your face presentation vs the unitserve. But the core is more dynamic and spatial vs the unitserve.

Aurender n10 with a future ndac 2?

Posted on: 12 March 2017 by Innocent Bystander
Keler Pierre posted:
Dave J posted:

 I bought my Melco after comparing it to the NAS that I was using (and still use as a back up) at the time. It was, and is, clearly a step ahead and extremely convenient however that was before the arrival of Innuos,  which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. The price of the latest Melco range is pushing it out of contention sadly. I still think it's a great product but it's no longer top of the pile.

unfortunately i found no information on this forum or reviews by hifi critic, ear or hifi news which can tell that the innuos zenith is better than the melco. perhaps for just ripping. Why you say that?  and why say that the innuos have a better software than melco?   i am very curious. I would like to upgrade my unitserve/ tp ps, but can't find for the moment.

the melco and innuos zenith are a bit soft and less dynamic than unitserve/ nds/ ethernet mode. The core appeared for me a bin thin and in your face presentation vs the unitserve. But the core is more dynamic and spatial vs the unitserve.

Aurender n10 with a future ndac 2?

Some time in the past year or so someone posted quite a detailed account of his journey through Melco and Audivana and one or two other things to Innuos Zenith, so you should find if you conduct a search. Unfortunarptely I don't recall the member's name.

Posted on: 13 March 2017 by Dave J
Keler Pierre posted:
Dave J posted:

 I bought my Melco after comparing it to the NAS that I was using (and still use as a back up) at the time. It was, and is, clearly a step ahead and extremely convenient however that was before the arrival of Innuos,  which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. The price of the latest Melco range is pushing it out of contention sadly. I still think it's a great product but it's no longer top of the pile.

unfortunately i found no information on this forum or reviews by hifi critic, ear or hifi news which can tell that the innuos zenith is better than the melco. perhaps for just ripping. Why you say that?  and why say that the innuos have a better software than melco?   i am very curious. I would like to upgrade my unitserve/ tp ps, but can't find for the moment.

the melco and innuos zenith are a bit soft and less dynamic than unitserve/ nds/ ethernet mode. The core appeared for me a bin thin and in your face presentation vs the unitserve. But the core is more dynamic and spatial vs the unitserve.

Aurender n10 with a future ndac 2?

Just my view and from my experience of both products, I'm not basing this on any reviews that may have appeared.  To make clear, I'm still using the Melco, I don't see that there's anything inherently "wrong" with it, it's a great bit of kit, just that the Innuos goes a little further and at a more accessible price.

Posted on: 13 March 2017 by French Rooster
Dave J posted:
Keler Pierre posted:
Dave J posted:

 I bought my Melco after comparing it to the NAS that I was using (and still use as a back up) at the time. It was, and is, clearly a step ahead and extremely convenient however that was before the arrival of Innuos,  which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. The price of the latest Melco range is pushing it out of contention sadly. I still think it's a great product but it's no longer top of the pile.

unfortunately i found no information on this forum or reviews by hifi critic, ear or hifi news which can tell that the innuos zenith is better than the melco. perhaps for just ripping. Why you say that?  and why say that the innuos have a better software than melco?   i am very curious. I would like to upgrade my unitserve/ tp ps, but can't find for the moment.

the melco and innuos zenith are a bit soft and less dynamic than unitserve/ nds/ ethernet mode. The core appeared for me a bin thin and in your face presentation vs the unitserve. But the core is more dynamic and spatial vs the unitserve.

Aurender n10 with a future ndac 2?

Just my view and from my experience of both products, I'm not basing this on any reviews that may have appeared.  To make clear, I'm still using the Melco, I don't see that there's anything inherently "wrong" with it, it's a great bit of kit, just that the Innuos goes a little further and at a more accessible price.

ah ok, interesting information, thanks.

Posted on: 13 March 2017 by tonym
Dave J posted:

   which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. 

I did have occasion to look over an Innuos Zenith and built to a higher standard than my N1Z it is certainly not. Why do you think the software is better?

Posted on: 13 March 2017 by French Rooster
tonym posted:
Dave J posted:

   which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. 

I did have occasion to look over an Innuos Zenith and built to a higher standard than my N1Z it is certainly not. Why do you think the software is better?

yes , like you, i am surprised, but for the sound quality i don't know... the software of the melco seems one of the most advanced today. Perhaps aurender w20 or sound galleries can match or beat this software.

Posted on: 14 March 2017 by David O'Higgins
David O'Higgins posted:

Until I installed Minimserver, I couldn't get the Melco to work satisfactorily - kept getting dropouts. Anyone else had this experience?

 

Posted on: 14 March 2017 by David O'Higgins

Sorry to reply to my own post, but in another thread I was advised, for a different reason, to delete the Naim App, do a power recycle on the IPad, and to reinstall the App. I have done this, and, as a side effect, it seems to have cured the Melco 'dropout' problem. Perhaps an unstable App installation on IPad causes wider problems?

 

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by Dave J
tonym posted:
Dave J posted:

   which is now not only quite a bit cheaper than the equivalent Melco but is built to a higher standard, has a CD ripper, better software and, I think, sounds a bit better too. 

I did have occasion to look over an Innuos Zenith and built to a higher standard than my N1Z it is certainly not. Why do you think the software is better?

Mine's an N1A, which is less robust than your N1Z, Tony. The equivalent Zen felt more solid. The ability to edit via an iPad is a real bonus and much easier than I find it now. Also it's much less faff loading a CD into the machine and ripping to uncompressed flac