Dynaudio Confidence C2 and SuperUniti

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to hijack the thread, but I tried hard and failed to find a "open thread" or "start thread" button on the mobile version of the forum. I am away from home and using my phone to post here. So if anyone could help with this I would highly appreciate it.

As I've said elsewhere this isn't only about power it's about soundstage, ability to resolve etc.   In fact when I first bought into Naim I tried the Dyns with a 202/200 and I thought the performance somewhat thin - for want of an expression - the 282 resolved that.   I'm far from a source first disciple but do think balance and synergy are essential. 

But down to the OP to decide.  

Amused posted:

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to hijack the thread, but I tried hard and failed to find a "open thread" or "start thread" button on the mobile version of the forum. I am away from home and using my phone to post here. So if anyone could help with this I would highly appreciate it.

Look for the 'post' button. 

I see "post reply" only within an existing thread.

While in say, the Hifi Corner, press on the menu at the top left of your phone screen.  The first choice in the drop-down menu should be the option "Post".  Press on that...

On my phone it appears as 3 horizontal bars - hit that and a dropdown appears with 'post' in it

Thank you, I found it and managed to open a dedicated topic. Apologies for hijacking this topic!

Thank you all for your advice.

Hi Dan's,

I am an owner of a SU and recently I upgraded from ELAC 263 to 314 ,if you have the opportunity to be able to listen to them from a dealer please do it;  You can not imagine such a 'spectacular sound from these small standmounts speakers many consider among the best standmounts speakers ever produced regardless of their cost; Compared to Wilson Benesch Discovery, with less cost, punch but much more refined. from their jet5 tweeters out female voices like silk, spectacular with violins and string rich and balaced bass. Just try
Believe me you will forget the Dynaudio

I know elac, they are spectacular. 244 be, 244.3, 249, 407, 409. Very close to ma golds but a bit more resolute.

I guess its just hype regarding dynaudios, until proven otherwise.

the 314 are much better than the model 2 ... (as I said before I have had for about a year the 263) 

I've always loved the sound of the standmount models in my living room  and I have always used it with a subwoofer to complement the sound in bass response. Now with the 314 the sub is turned off, even at low volumes. 

Dan.S posted:

I guess its just hype regarding dynaudios, until proven otherwise.

If you like Dynaudio why not try the new contour 20, seem excellent speakers with Esotar number 2 tweeters, so far the prerogative of higher-end models. it seems a good match with the SU

I actually do not like Dynaudio that much I now realise. Not when you need tens of thousands worth of electronics behind them. Just to correct shortcomings, not to make them actually sound good (imo). I might be wrong though. I'm yet to hear a good sounding dynaudio setup. Owners and reviewers cannot be all insane.

Expensive speakers are like that. You just don't use a SuperUniti with £12,000 speakers, even if you pay £3,000 for them used. With those Dynaudios amplification like the 252/300 is the sort of thing you are looking at for a balanced system. I paid £2,000 for my speakers secondhand yet still have £11,000 of boxes driving them. And there are people using £70,000 of electronics with them - they are they good that they still show the benefit. So there is no reason to take against the C2s. That's just the way it is. They won't work properly with a SuperUniti, good as it is. Get some copacetic speakers and you'll be happy. You may already have them. 

HH: I'm inclining to agree, for the most part. But some degree of autosuggestion may be needed to forget about these C2s.  And please, don't ever refer to my monitor audio gold 200 like you did. They are truly spectacular.

HH not that I disagree with you, but in your whole post, no mention of a source? 

Dan.S posted:

HH: I'm inclining to believe you. But some degree of autosuggestion may be needed to forget about these C2s.  And please, don't ever refer to my monitor audio gold 200 like you did. They are truly spectacular.

if you like the MA gold, stay married to them, divorce is always expensive 

Dan.S posted:

HH: I'm inclining to agree, for the most part. But some degree of autosuggestion may be needed to forget about these C2s.  And please, don't ever refer to my monitor audio gold 200 like you did. They are truly spectacular.

Now that I don't understand. 

Hungryhalibut posted:

Expensive speakers are like that. You just don't use a SuperUniti with £12,000 speakers, even if you pay £3,000 for them used. With those Dynaudios amplification like the 252/300 is the sort of thing you are looking at for a balanced system. I paid £2,000 for my speakers secondhand yet still have £11,000 of boxes driving them. And there are people using £70,000 of electronics with them - they are they good that they still show the benefit. So there is no reason to take against the C2s. That's just the way it is. They won't work properly with a SuperUniti, good as it is. Get some copacetic speakers and you'll be happy. You may already have them. 

I agree HH,a while back i played around a bit,and brought up my surround speakers from home theater to listen in my Naim system.They are Dynaudio excite 12's,which cost me $1000 Canadian dollars with the stand 3's.So same system as yours,but i was using an XP5 xs power supply,so maybe 15 times the value of the speakers,and it sounded absolutely fabulous,i have also tried a Denon($1000 bucks) reciever with C1'S...not good at all,

I've once powered a pair of Marten Djangos with my SU and sounded like C4 on the end of tens of thousands of Accuphases will never do.

I know what I have to do now. Thanks everyone, it's great having this collective wisdom to tap into.

Dan.S posted:

HH: I'm inclining to agree, for the most part. But some degree of autosuggestion may be needed to forget about these C2s.  And please, don't ever refer to my monitor audio gold 200 like you did. They are truly spectacular.

MA 200s and MA 300s have a very distincitve sound signature - scooped mid-range, good bass and high-performance, well controlled trebble. It's unfortunately the scooped, recessed mid-range that holds back the Naim boxes.

Only when trully revealing speakers, like Quad ESL 63 were put against those, did I realise how 'coloured' the sound of MA 300s is.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining (for a change ) - just observing.